<p>At Pitt they made a point to tell freshman at our incoming convocations ceremony that you have to put in the effort or you will simply not see results. They cited a kid who, the year before failed out, despite having a 1540 or something ridiculous like that on his SATs. </p>
<p>So no...my SATs were very average coming into college (1250), yet I'm in the top 10% of my class.</p>
<p>In my personal experience, there is NO correlation between SAT and college GPA. I got an 1120 on the old SAT in fall 2004 and a 1480 on the new one in fall 2006. I'm currently entering my third year of college at a state university with mechanical engineering major, math, physics, and aerospace engineering minors. My current college GPA is 3.85+ after last spring with 77 credit-hours completed and it was 3.800 after freshman year with 31 credit-hours completed. This lack of correlation between my SAT scores and my actually ability screws me out of scholarships and admittance to schools I rightfully should get. The GRE will probably also screw me out of any graduate school worth me going to.</p>
<p>LOL, good times.</p>
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Fair enough, I'll take a look at all the stuff there. If I find anything to the contrary, I'll be sure to post.</p>
<p>I wish SAT indicated success...</p>
<p>It may not be a success indicator but it does show how prepared you may be for certain subjects...</p>
<p>so if someone sucked on their SATs and I had a horrible work ethic that probably means...they'll do bad in college - prove me wrong.</p>
<p>however if they somehow change and study / work hard they can be successful in college (i hope i can do this).</p>
<p>So to answer your question - SAT does not = success in college, but there is a correlation or else they wouldn't ask for them.</p>
<p>Wrong. The reason why it's still being used is because there is no other way to compare the thousands of high school students.</p>
<p>"so if someone sucked on their SATs and I had a horrible work ethic that probably means...they'll do bad in college - prove me wrong."</p>
<p>The thing about that statement is you can take out the first part and its still true. Horrible work eithic means you'll probably do bad in college. Nothing to do with the SATs.</p>
<p>ZING.</p>
<p>That argument made me giggle.</p>
<p>I think that it is more important to work hard throughout the ENTIRE semester rather than cram before midterms and finals... I think work ethics plays a big part in this.</p>
<p>The simple answer to the proposed question is "of course not"! But then there's no single predictor of success in college. Why not list all the predictors, in their order of magnitude. I'll go first.</p>
<p>Hi school record
Parent's highest degree
Awards and honors
Family's income
Self assessed motivation
Height/weight ratio</p>
<p>You joker, you.</p>
<p>don't let people make you try and feel better </p>
<p>SAT = success in life</p>
<p>that wasn't the point of the thread....the point of the thread is that are my chances of success higher if I think that I would score a lot higher had I taken it right now?</p>
<p>i kid</p>
<p>..</p>
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<p>:( Not for this person here. 790 SAT II Composition, 2230 SAT I, attending public state school (UCSD) and I got a 2.9 my first year... Quite depressing...</p>
<p>I'm hoping I can fix that with the three years left here...</p>
<p>who cares. honestly.</p>
<p>The following is a list of organizations that care:
The US Government
The Nigerian Government
The Chinese Government
Costco
WalMart
Electronic Arts
Pfizer
Bed, Bath and Beyond
Blockbuster
Gamestop
World Wildlife Fund
Scholastic Publishers
Radio Shack</p>
<p>The following is a brief list of select celebrities that care:
Tom Hanks
Julia Roberts
Ice Cube
Don Cheadle
Jackie Chan
Jason Statham
Hillary Clinton
Ron Livingston
Barack Obama</p>
<p>Not to mention countless CC members.</p>
<p>Unless you are brilliant, the answer is no (though one of my friends is an exception – you’ll see below).</p>
<p>Me (after 2 years of college)
SAT: 1180 College GPA: 3.0 Business Econ</p>
<p>I didn't start studying until last semester (I got a 3.7)</p>
<p>Examples of some of my friends (after 2 years of college)
SAT: 1000 College GPA: 3.7 Chemistry
SAT: 1500 College GPA: 2.0 Computer Science (has been on and off of academic probation)
SAT: 1390 College GPA: 3.9 Econ/Finance
SAT: 1410 College GPA: 3.7 Math/Foreign language (double major)
SAT: 1200 College GPA: 2.3 Engineering (now Econ)
SAT: 1400 College GPA: 3.0 Engineering
SAT: 1050 College GPA: 3.5 Biology
SAT: 1030 College GPA: 3.8 Psychology
SAT: 1200 College GPA: 3.8 Humanities
SAT: 940 College GPA: 3.8 Biology
SAT: 950 College GPA: 3.2 Accounting</p>
<p>Your college GPA will depend on the amount of work you are willing to put in. Some majors are harder than others (Engineering, some science majors, math). Still, for the most part, your grades will really reflect on what kind of work ethic you have.</p>
<p>many things go into your success at college. firstly the academic rigor of the college, I took calc II as a senior in high school at a local community college and aced it with a 4.0. First year of college, rigorous research university, barely managed a B-,2.7, in discrete math (math outside of calculus). Your inclination to read and your study habits are quite important. While some classes I got away with skimming over the material others I spent 4-5 hours on a day to understand. SATs can predict the sucess for some students, but its correlation on a larger sampling usually fails, as high school education for many in unequal and the test is quite biased. Like others, I bombed my SATs, but did real well my university, dean's list both semesters, and my gpa is 3.7+.</p>