<p>I'm not sure why I'm asking this anyways....</p>
<p>MIT accepts SAT, ACT or TOEFL for admissions as standardized tests.
Being an international, MIT suggests that I should take TOEFL, but how much significance do they put on TOEFL compared to the other two ?</p>
<p>So is 80% on SAT same as 80% on ACT or TOEFL ? Or vice-verse ?</p>
<p>If I am wrong, I would like people to correct me. I would like to share what I have read at various places.</p>
<p>Admission to MIT for any student, more so for an international, is no more about being academically qualified or having so called scores on any standardized tests though, a very good score, in your specific context, is necessary to ensure minimum academic proficiency needed. </p>
<p>Probably MIT suggests non-native speakers to take TOEFL, not because it will judge the academic competitiveness from TOEFL ( or SAT for that matter ) but to ensure that you have a minimum proficiency in English, Mathematics and Sciences ( in case of SAT II )… </p>
<p>The things that will separate you from rest of the very competitive applicant will more often not be your score of SAT or TOEFL but your ECs, special talent, research ( if any ), your interview and essays…</p>
<p>While academic competitiveness is damn necessary, " the match or fit between you and MIT " is far more the deciding factor between a reject with 2300 SAT and accepted with 2150</p>
<p>i think TOEFL for those who have been talking English for less that 5years
for example : English is my THIRD language but i learned it from the age of 10 so i can’t use that option
anyway, I’ll have to sit for the TOEFL and I’ll send the two scores(but TOEFL would be much better!!)=</p>
<p>^No, any non-native English speaker applying to MIT is free to take and send the TOEFL.</p>
<p>So are TOEFL scores = SAT scores ??</p>
<p>I had better stats on TOEFL in terms of %, so shall I send TOEFL instead of SAT.</p>
<p>If it’s possible for you, you should send both scores – MIT will use the scores that present your application in the best light, and their equivalency charts aren’t necessarily based only on percentiles.</p>
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<p>So that means high SAT scores = better chance, whereas TOEFL = your proficiency = no impact on chances ?
I will only send 1, tell me which one to send ?</p>
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No, it means that it’s easier to send both scores and let the admissions officers choose which is better than to try and figure it out yourself.</p>
<p>Is it true that SAT > ACT > TOEFL ?</p>
<p>No, MIT doesn’t have a preference. </p>
<p>From Matt’s blog, [here](<a href=“http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/testing_requirements_faq_1]here[/url]:”>Testing requirements FAQ | MIT Admissions):</a>
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<p>So which one should I send ?
90% on TOEFL or 80% on SAT, these are not my scores but am just asking.</p>
<p>Why can’t you send both? Is money the issue? But then, why didn’t you think about it before taking the tests? <em>is confused</em></p>
<p>Probably KingsXI is confused. He thinks that sending only TOEFL may depict him as not a competitive student because he either didn’t take the SAT or didn’t score high enough… </p>
<p>And, he doesn’t want to send SAT because he thinks his score aren’t great enough…</p>
<p>Since, molliebatmit himself has said that and website says that too… … KingsXI, send both and let adcoms decide in your best interest…</p>
<p>I’m not confused or anything.
I wanted to know that whether TOEFL results are given equal importance as SAT or not ?
Since we’re already giving SAT 2 for Maths & Science, so TOEFL marks should be equivalent to SAT English only. Is it correct ?</p>
<p>There’s no preference for one over the other. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I don’t know what the equivalence is to tell you whether a particular TOEFL score is better than a particular SAT score. I don’t believe it’s based on simple percentiles, but, rather, on past data that MIT has collected.</p>
<p>KingsXI, I hope this helps:</p>
<p>[Tests</a> To Take | MIT Admissions](<a href=“http://mitadmissions.org/apply/international/intltests]Tests”>International applicants | MIT Admissions)</p>
<p>It seems like a TOEFL score of 600 on the paper test or (100 correct answers on the internet) instead of the SAT reasoning test is good enough for MIT.</p>
<p>So if TOEFL = SAT then why does MIT has a min cut-off for TOEFL & not for SAT ?</p>
<p>Because MIT has found it useful to set a minimum for English proficiency for non-native speakers.</p>
<p>I am not sure I understand what you mean by asking whether TOEFL “=” SAT. Overall, standardized test scores are not a very important part of an MIT application, as long as they are good enough. For any test, the admissions officers are looking to see that an applicant is qualified on the basis of his or her scores, but admissions decisions are made on the basis of other factors. No one gets into MIT on the basis of test scores alone.</p>
<p>^ So by the standardized tests, do you check for proficiency or aptitude ?
If by TOEFL you check for proficiency, then someone scoring more than recommended say may be 116/120, wouldn’t have to push for more like someone with 730/800 in SAT will do.</p>
<p>By TOEFL “=” SAT, I meant to say that if I submit just TOEFL & not SAT, does MIT hold anything against me ? I believe thats already been answered in the blogs but am just asking :)</p>
<p>It seems to me, just as American high school students who study foreign languages are not required to take the same courses/ demonstrate the same competency as native speakers of those languages in the American school system, at MIT foreign applicants perhaps, do not have to take the same tests in English/ demonstrate the same competency in English as American students. It seems fair to me. As long as foreign students show excellence in science & math, demonstrated by SAT II scores, essays, gpa, extra curriculars etc. and demonstrate leadership and responsiblity and other values at par with American students, it seems like foreigners competing with Americans on English competency is not a deciding factor at MIT. Just my opinion, but I think this policy demonstrates how far ahead MIT is in it’s thinking on this subject than many other schools in the USA.</p>