<p>I've always thought that GPA is 10X more important than SAT scores (that's what the schools all say, since SAT is just one test), but it seems like SATs can count for a lot. It makes sense that they would be more important at big public schools, but does anyone know if certain schools put way more emphasis on the SAT than is "normal"? I heard that the UC's and Brown does, is that true and are there any others?</p>
<p>Check PReview, under the tab "admissions factors" for individual schools. They tell you what the college sees as most important.</p>
<p>Both the SAT and GPA are factors that establish credibility to your application. </p>
<p>Neither of them will get you in to a school (maybe a 2400), but if you have good scores and gpa it will allow you to pass the first threshold and move on to other parts of the application, per se.</p>
<p>but if you had to compare them, which one is MORE important?</p>
<p>you can get into college with 4.0 GPA 600 SAT</p>
<p>but not 0.0 GPA 2400 SAT.</p>
<p>so GPA</p>
<p>okay, okay
but what about an on the line gpa, which is slightly too low for a certain school. will the amazing sat make up for it? or is it apples and oranges?</p>
<p>Um, I've heard Brown DE-EMPHASIZES test scores, not puts way more emphasis on them. I've never heard anyone say they stress test scores.</p>
<p>well i've definitely heard that brown accepts most of their 2400's, letting that override other less perfect things</p>
<p>could be a fluke, but who can know for sure</p>
<p>GPA. Success in high school classes predicts success in college classes better than SAT scores. Mostly because your GPA is not only a measure of what you know, but also you can take different classes (not just writing, math, and critical reading), you need different kinds of skills, and it measures how hard you work.</p>
<p>GPA, of course.</p>
<p>It's rank, not GPA that is the most important factor. GPAs need to be put in context. SAT is almost as important.</p>
<p>A great SAT won't make up for a low rank at top schools, but it can below the top 30 or so.</p>
<p>Well, I don't know what colleges think, but I personally feel that the SAT is more vital to understanding an applicant's ability to take tests/subject concentrations.</p>
<p>The SAT is not just "one test" and your future is over. You can retake it; if you don't and you're complaining that you shouldn't have to, well I think that's laziness.</p>
<p>GPA is important, but I think only to a certain extent. It could be really hard at your current school, so your grades look deflated. Also, GPA isn't everything. If you're GPA-obsessed, you're not learning to learn.</p>
<p>I think, personally, that the SAT assists in helping show one's basic sort-of academic abilities.</p>
<p>^ definitely agree.</p>
<p>Plus, my HS is really difficult (but not known as one of the best in the country a la exeter, andover) and we have people who have good SATs but are way out of the top 10% that aren't URMs/athletes/etc and are accepted to Ivies, Duke, etc. Then we also have people who are in the top 10% who are rejected by Ivies so obviously GPA and rank aren't overly important</p>
<p>TRANSCRIPT over both.</p>
<p>I agree. I mean I know rank/GPA are important, but I mean if you can ace the SATs, it really opens a lot of doors for you.</p>
<p>GPA/Rank is more important. I've seen a lot of people get turned down just because their rank isn't that good at my school. GPA is probably more important than rank because your rank is determined by the competitiveness of your class. They probably look at GPA in relation to the highest GPA in the class.</p>
<p>People with at least 2000s and top ten will probably still get into top school. But people who have a poor rank and high sat scores aren't going to get into ivies. I think the colleges find it more important how hard you've worked as a whole, rather just on one test. You can't just slack off and think a 2000 is gonna make your chances any better...maybe if you get a 2400..but you'd still have to be top 25 percent i'd say.</p>
<p>consider this, every year, my school, hotchkiss places 20% of the kids into ivies, then the next 30-40 % into the top 25 schools like CMU, Chicago, Gtown etc, then probably the rest into the around 50th schools... rank really doesnt matter if the students are almost equally smart.... a 50th percentile kid can easily get into Gtown or USC... so rank is unimportant because it really depends on the level of the school...in this sense, gpa is not that important too</p>
<p>To further support my statement, here are the admissions profile for 3 top schools where apparently, GPA doesnt matter that much</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins<br>
GPA admit/applications
3.7+ 2/2
3.6 + 0/1
3.5+ 6/8
3.3+ 2/3
3.2+ 4/8
3.0+ 2/5
2.8+ 1/7</p>
<p>Georgetown
GPA admit/apps
3.7+ 2/2
3.6 + 3/3
3.5+ 8/10
3.3+ 5/10
3.2+ 6/12
3.0+ 1/6
2.8+ 1/4
2.6+ 0/2</p>
<p>Tufts
GPA admit/apps
3.7+ 3/3
3.6 + 0/1
3.5+ 4/7
3.3+ 8/11
3.2+ 5/9
3.0+ 1/7
2.8+ 1/5
2.6+ 0/1
2.4+ 1/1</p>
<p>my point is i think CCer over emphasized the importance of gpa....loook most of these people are not hooked, becoz early decision stats are seperated somewhere else..those are all the major hooked ones....it's not like you cant go to a good school with around 3.0</p>
<p>^yeah seriously</p>
<p>"But people who have a poor rank and high sat scores aren't going to get into ivies."
Not true at all. I know of 2 people (most likely more but not off the top of my head) one who goes to Brown and one who goes to Princeton, and neither of them were in the top 25% of their class. Neither were URMs, athletes, or ridiculous inventor/business people/etc either.</p>