SAT's are unjust!!

<p>I think SAT is an IQ test. I do quite well in school and don't study a whole lot but don't fair really well on standardized tests. However, I do really well on the APs. I usually don't give a damn about standardized tests. On the state standardized tests, I bubble randomly (hate the no child left behind!) and on the 10th grade PSAT, I got bored and just bubbled randomly. I got so nervous on the 11th grade one that I didnt finish. Same thing happened with my first SAT. Was so worked up that I didn't finish. </p>

<p>For not natural testtakers taking this I will advise you to have fun while taking the SAT. Work at a medium rate. Not too fast or slow so that you can avoid silly mistakes ( I am the queen of them!) and finish.</p>

<p>The SAT's are unfair for people who are slow test takers... like i'm a great test taker but the time limits always bug me out...i get to a problem i don't really no and i start to spaz and lose complete focus and by the time i no it times up</p>

<p>I think the SATS are more just than GPA.</p>

<p>Classes and their difficulties very greatly at schools. Like the grading system can be different and finals may be weighed more or less depending on the school. Also, with the 4.0 system, I don't think it's fair for someone who has an 89 in the class recieve a B which equals 3 points, while someone with a 90 gets an A. I would much rather have schools average the percentages.</p>

<p>Anyhows, my point is, because the SAT is the same for everyone, then it is a more fair indicator of one's "intelligence" and test taking abilities.</p>

<p>yeah sat is basically innate intelligence. I think anyone witha good mind like 120 should be able to score perfect if they prep a bit and learnt eh tricks</p>

<p>GPA measures dedication/endurance in school subjects.</p>

<p>SAT measures natural ability (to a certain extent) and the ability to work under pressure. </p>

<p>Of course these two points are debatable, but it's true across the board.</p>

<p>Hikaru, I have a 130, but could only get a 2350. Anyways, has it ever occurred to you people that SATs are actually valued MORE by colleges? Why would you think they aren't? Just because the schools say so? Think about it. The VAST, VAST majority of kids who are applying to the top colleges have good-stellar high school grades. They do not all have good-stellar SATs however. Colleges don't want to scare off these applicants, so they pretend that your GPA is more important than your board scores. Seems rather simple to me...</p>

<p>How the hell can you say you ONLY got a 2350? people like you get me mad...99 percent of people will sell their soul to the devil to get that score</p>

<p>Am I the only person here to think that the SAT isn't really a great indicator for intelligence? I prepared for it with a test book, and I felt that all I had to do was memorizing the question types and a certain essay format and it boosted my score ridiculously... I mean, where is the creativity or flexibility? I think that there is a reason why more and more colleges don't require the SAT anymore.</p>

<p>wow thats weird, i have a 3.78 and i got a 2140 on the sat and a 33 on th act</p>

<p>whoever wrote that all student with 4.0's study a lot is wrong! i have a 4.3 and the only time i really study study study as u said is the two weeks before ap season</p>

<p>RIGHT OKKKKKK</p>

<p>Injun Joe, I was being sarcastic... Perfect scores are not achievable to all people of high intelligence.</p>

<p>The SAT is the best indicator of intelligence. First, anyone can study all day and get a 100 on any old test. Whoopie. The SAT however, requires endurance, the ability to concentrate for an extended period of time, and demonstrates excellent problem solving skills.</p>

<p>Exactly, that is why it is the most reliable indicator of future success.</p>

<p>But you can actually train your endurarance and concentration skills... plus, if I remember correctly, there is no section in the SAT that takes longer than 30 minutes. That is not a very long time span. How exactly would you say do you have to demonstrate excellent problem solving skills if you know exactly what kind of problems you will run across? Excellent problem solving skills I would need if I was confronted with a kind of problem that I did not in the least anticipate coming...
(btw, I'm sorry if I sound too negative; I'm not from the US and am just used to completely different kinds of tests; where I'm from, university requirements are completely different. O, and so you don't get the wrong idea, I scored neither bad nor perfectly)</p>

<p>I just saw koolcrud's post... I don't think the SAT is such a reliable indicator of future success... for example, George W. Bush scored a 640m/566v on his SAT, and look where he is today. (This is not a political comment!)</p>

<p>Exactly, he's run the country more poorly than any other president in modern history, and he got to his post through pure nepotism. You're right, if you're father was the President of the United States, I doubt the SAT will kill you. Also, keep in mind that is the old scoring scale. He actually did better than that on the new scale.</p>

<p>the bush example holds NO weight in this arguement lol</p>

<p>i have a 3.92 / 4.7 weighted gpa only got a 1690 on my sats (1 try)...i don't study at all, play three varsity sports all year around ... yea, im not that smart but i no how to work the schools system(this doesn't mean cheating)...don't no where this will lead me in the future but i guess ill see</p>

<p>Well, I think that we'd agree that a college is harder to "work" than a high school, and an actual job even moreso. If you don't believe that you are that smart, than why would you want to attend an overly rigorous and prestigious university in the first place?</p>