SCAD in general

<p>First, I was admitted for an MFA, not an MA. There would be no point in my situation to go for an MA, which I've discussed elsewhere previously. So I'll address the courses, aside from the MA final project as it wouldn't have been part of my curriculum. Regarding the comment, "That would surprise me a great deal if they did not." then you should go ahead and be suprised, because none of the pre-requisites had to do with web design. I must only conclude that they found the single website which I submitted to have been of sufficiently high quality (despite one known tabular glitch that keeps getting the better of me). </p>

<p>ARTH 701 Contemporary Art - I have a hard time with memorizing name/date/place type info, so I will struggle through any history class, but would still come through with at least a B because it's something that I work hard to overcome
GRDS 703 Digital Production Design+ - great opportunity to learn, as this is not taught everywhere. Would expect to do well as I have a great capacity for technical knowledge
GRDS 705 Design Methodologies+ - no problem here, would expect to do very well
GRDS 709 Typography Studio I - no problem here, would expect to learn some because of my previous poorly taught typography class but not be challenged beyond my capabilities by any means
GRDS 715 Print Studio I - I would hope that they got very advanced with this so as to avoid taking a course too similar to what I have already done
GRDS 720 Digital Studio I - would expect to learn a lot here, but wouldn't regard it as something to be nervous about
GRDS 726 The Role of Graphic Design in Social Awareness - sounds like fun, theoretical stuff
GRDS 730 3-D Graphics Studio - fun stuff, I would expect to do very well but also learn some new things</p>

<p>I looked at the curriculum extensively before applying, and none of it made me nervous at all. If it had, I would have questioned whether I was capable of doing MFA level work, but I honestly have no concerns. I actually chose a school that I expect to challenge me much more than SCAD would have, and do not regard the decision as one in which I am shirking a challenge at all.</p>

<p>The two prerequisites that I believe were BS included one which I had already covered but they seemed to overlook because it was taught by the school of architecture, not the school of art, and another which I had in-progress at the time, but their application did not ask for that information and I'm not sure how it was displayed on my transcript. So yes, I absolutely think that I know my own abilities better than someone who does not know me at all and is basing their decisions on a limited set of information. I take comfort that my opinion of my abilities is accurate in part because my results with colleges were very well aligned with what I expected (waitlisted at MICA, admitted everywhere else I applied, scholarships at 4 out of 5 of those).</p>

<p>//First, I was admitted for an MFA, not an MA.//</p>

<p>Same policies and procedure, makes no difference.</p>

<p>//"That would surprise me a great deal if they did not." then you should go ahead and be suprised, because none of the pre-requisites had to do with web design.//</p>

<p>What were they?</p>

<p>//GRDS 720 Digital Studio I - would expect to learn a lot here, but wouldn't regard it as something to be nervous about//</p>

<p>Can you build this page from the ground up; including use of multiple and external CSS, all javascript behaviors and include Search function.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.scad.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.scad.edu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I have seen it as an undergraduate level assignment - to teach first the methodology of constructing a page - like a contractor frames a house and introduce students to the means of planning for plumbing, electrical, and other utilitarian features. If you can't then you will fall flat on your face in 720 because the expectation is that you can, and not that you can learn, but that you know...already.</p>

<p>Post a link to your present site; I will give you an honest opinion.</p>

<p>//The two prerequisites that I believe were BS included one which I had already covered but they seemed to overlook because it was taught by the school of architecture, not the school of art, and another which I had in-progress at the time, but their application did not ask for that information and I'm not sure how it was displayed on my transcript.//</p>

<p>Pre-requisites are assigned on the basis of your portfolio. They could care less if you took a similar class at another college. It all comes down to the portfolio on the graduate level - more than anything else. </p>

<p>//So yes, I absolutely think that I know my own abilities better than someone who does not know me at all and is basing their decisions on a limited set of information.//</p>

<p>Again, they are basing it upon your portfolio; as will every art director.
[remainder removed - Courtesy edit per TOS - Mod JEM]</p>

<p>And I think that you are far too ready to assume that someone does not have knowledge based on the fact that they've turned down a school you support and nothing else. This is it, I have no need to justify myself to you, and will not engage in it. If I had the best portfolio in the world (not saying I do, but even if...), I am convinced you would call it crap to justify your own conviction of superiority. This is a site about comparing and sharing college information. I share what I know because I believe those researching colleges should know all of what's out there, not to pump up my own ego by bolstering the reputation of my school. They are going to have to live with everything which is both good and bad in whatever school they choose to go to. I just think they have a right to know what that includes before they make the choice. MANY people will decide that SCAD's mixed reputation will be something they can live with, and I have absolutely no problem with that, I'm only trying to prevent kids being unpleasantly suprised by that reputation after they arrive there or after they graduate. That was what my returning to this post was about, not justifying my own decisions. I have indulged your personally oriented questions for too long considering that it was not at all the main object of my post. I will leave you to think that my work is crap and I have no concept of theory, because that's what you choose to believe because I have offended you, not because of anything to do with my work. </p>

<p>* [comment edited out per TOS courtesy guidelines - Mod JEM]*</p>

<p>I have only offered honesty, and truth. I share it to put an end to much of the misinformation that people mistakingly perpetuate about the school. You may perceive it however you choose.</p>

<p>Larationalist: "that has the potential to affect future job prospects."</p>

<p>school wont help you much at MFA level (especially if you dont have traditional arts background)...its your personal effort. I am from computer science background...and i know how everything is changed drastically (since i joined MFA Vsfx) Now its all about my work and NOTHING else. Nobody cares abt school once you get out into the market. Its your work. IMO, SCAD and every other school just provides a chance to grow...you can completely blow it off if you want..because at MFA level... NO school will spoon feed you.</p>

<p>word of advice: Dont spend a fortune on arts school just because of name. go to the one (in your list) where you have to pay the least. if you have talent, you will find your way up...that is how it works in visual arts...no advantage of big names, grades and transcripts!</p>

<p>thats very nice to hear, what you said 3DACrazy, although it's only an opinion and your word of advice, it still counts.</p>

<p>Anyway, anyone knows what department is best at SCAD? I'm just wondering. It might affect what I pick to major in later on. Right now, I'm thinking of architecture, but I heard a lot of things about it that kinda shook me a little. So, I'm just wondering, what is the best department that SCAD offers? I know that in the end, I'll probably go with my main interest, but for now, I'm just curious.</p>

<p>Well, SCAD and EA have established an excellent cooperative relationship, and CNN Money just named EA as the 2nd of 20 great companies for which to work. I don't know all depts, but it seems that gaming, visual effects, graphic design, sequential art, industrial design, historic preservation, maybe fashion and fibers, photo is pretty good. </p>

<p>Electronic Arts
Headquarters: Redwood City, CA
2006 Revenues: $3 billion
Full-time employees: 7,200
Website: <a href="http://www.ea.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ea.com&lt;/a>
Get quote: ERTS
Type of company: Videogames</p>

<p>What makes it so great? For gamers, this is the golden trophy of jobs. Employees are given between five and 10 free games a year, with an option to purchase heavily discounted copies in a company store, and all full-time new hires get a coupon for $100 off any console. With so many games to master you might not have time to spend any of the $60,000 starting salary that's offered to the average entry-level worker. And don't forget the restricted stock grants (for instance, 300 shares for new software engineers), the on-site gym, free DVD library, and a plan that allows employees to buy company stock at a 15% discount. </p>

<p>Be prepared for a challenge, though: Last year, 5,000 college graduates applied, but only 200 were hired.</p>

<p>Continuing the above, "We're really excited about this collaboration with SCAD," said Jack Lew, Global University Relations manager for EA. "This pilot program will provide opportunities for students to get hands-on experience in creating art assets and it will allow EA to help develop creative and technical talent for the expanding game industry, as well as identifying top talent to fill the needs of this dynamic industry."</p>

<p>what about arch. at SCAD? im really considering it at SCAD. (I'm at Savannah right now). So, basically the city is split into 2 extremes that somehow manage to live together. A ghetto area next to the nice area...</p>

<p>but yeah, I'm excited. Savannah looks like a great city and SCAD looks good too, I just don't want to regret majoring in something that won't get me far away.</p>

<p>FWIW, my couz is a freshman at SCAD and loves it.</p>

<p>I was very disappointed that my son insisted on going to SCAD to pursue "film" - whatever that means - I fear he is not being trained for a specific job that will earn a good salary. The brochures for the film department do not offer much comfort either. The potential jobs appear technical and low-paying. In his 3 years at the school, he is required to take ALOT of drawing classes which is not his forte, and I do not see the connection with regard to his film major. He could easily test out of the only math class which is offered online. However, if he does not take the math class, he will be required to take a science class which in his mind would be quite bogus. According to him, taking one of these classes is required in order for the school to be accredited. The one library is heavily art-centered. He did an anthropology class and said he is basically being taught evolution. There was one research paper for which he did internet research. Basically what I'm saying here is that I would like my son to have more exposure to academic study. He misses the academic challenges also, however insists he is sufficiently challenged in art studies also. The school offers a term in France - but does not offer any language courses for French or any other language. Aditionally, I think the school would do well to provide some business classes as each graduating student will need business knowledge. I am not aware of anything in this area offered. The English also seems weak, and I feel this is a big missing elemenet in "film" education (also a form of communication). Regarding admissions, I concur the school would accept anyone who will pay. However, there are also some very quality students there. My son does like SCAD, but guess what - after all this $$$ he is now considering "going into something else". At this point he has not mentioned any guidance he has received with regard to job or internship assistance. I will also mention that the dorm situation is very tight. Most students after the 1st year or 2 live off campus. The SCAD scholarship monies are reduced to 70% for students who live off campus. My son is proud of the school and talks highly of the facility. As a parent, I note that most of his professors do not have phd's, the one book store is very small, and also I feel there are academic shortfalls as indicated above. However, my son would still stand by his decision to go there, so us moms have to learn to take a back seat and give loving support.</p>

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<p>granted, i don't know much about the film industry, but that sounds like the art industry to me...</p>

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Basically what I'm saying here is that I would like my son to have more exposure to academic study. He misses the academic challenges also, however insists he is sufficiently challenged in art studies also. The school offers a term in France - but does not offer any language courses for French or any other language. Aditionally, I think the school would do well to provide some business classes as each graduating student will need business knowledge. I am not aware of anything in this area offered. The English also seems weak, and I feel this is a big missing elemenet in "film" education (also a form of communication).

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<p>from what I gather, if he wants (or you think he should have) more academic study/challenges, he should've chosen a university with a recognized fine arts department. of course he is at SCAD now, but he can still take classes at other colleges over the summer to make up the gap in academics -- maybe they won't be as challenging other than that they may be crammed into a 6-week course, but he can still get the liberal arts background you don't think he is receiving at SCAD. i would concur with your beliefs about the English dept, but i do not know if that is true.</p>

<p>regarding drawing courses: i believe this is true for all art schools. drawing is stressed regardless of major.</p>

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<p>an Mfa is the highest fine art degree, so i wouldn't expect there to be many, if any at all.</p>

<p>My couz struggled through the drawing class, but his prof was more than willing to help him get through it. BTW, my couz is a film major. I'm sure he knows your son. I've heard very good things about SCAD grads getting jobs, so i'm not worried about him. My couz is pretty damn good at what he does.</p>

<p>//As a parent, I note that most of his professors do not have phd's//</p>

<p>All faculty have a terminal degree in the field of expertise, generally an MFA. Art history profs have PhDs because that is the terminal degree in their field. A few faculty have MA degrees, but have very extensive professional experience which grants them the opportunity to teach as well. This is the same at any art college.</p>

<p>First off, I would take 'Raining Again's responses with a grain of salt. After reading a number of posts by this person, they seem to cover quite a wide range of topics that I really don't think any one person could be informed about. For some reason this person feels compelled to correct the 'misinformation' spread about SCAD out there. Very suspicious, especially considering this is one website that SCAD can't buy up.</p>

<p>Second, I graduated from the school in 1992. During the time I was there, the student revolt occurred. The bottom line was the students were unhappy with the way the school was being run. I don't know what it's like now but based on my experiences there, the Rowans and their cronies are a shady group of individuals. Looking back, Paula Rowan was pretty much a silent partner when I was there but now that her ex-husband Richard is out of the picture (politely exiled to Europe from what I've heard) it's obvious he was just a figurehead and she was/is the evil matriarch running the show. I'd recommend staying away from that school until all the Rowans are pushing up daisies - and maybe give it another 10 to 20 years to see if the corruption dies too.</p>

<p>Third, I would question any college that hires their graduates immediately after graduation to be professors.</p>

<p>Fourth, the comment has been made 'the school will accept anybody' which our pal RainingAgain has denied (like he/she/it is part of the acceptance committee?). Perhaps a better way to put it is, the school does not accept "everybody" but it does accept "anybody". And by that I mean people that have no business being in an art school at all. I cannot tell you how frustrating it was to have to attend classes with people that had no business being there and had not a single cell of creative talent in their body. The school does not actively filter out folks that would be better suited to community education programs or turn away folks with no skills whatsoever.</p>

<p>Fifth, I encountered a severe change over of professors while I attended and it was not due to the one year contract stipulations or their displeasure with Savannah. Professors were dismissed constantly because, like the students, they did not like the way the school was run and spoke up about it. One professor even got fired because he didn't want to put the SCAD parking sticker on his new car! The numerous firings was a very negative aspect. It being such a small school, I expected and looked forward to having many of the same professors throughout my time there. This was not the case and from what I've been able to gather, it does not appear to have changed.</p>

<p>Sixth, the quality of some of the professors I had was very poor. The good ones I had were fired. The bad ones stayed because they kept their mouths shut.</p>

<p>Seventh, I was shot at (but not hit) one night while riding my bike down the street. This was not at 3 in the morning either. I knew more than one person that was on the wrong end of a gun in that town. Things got a little better after the Olympics came there but I can't imagine the crime is under control. Downtown Savannah is occupied by the well-to-do but surrounded on 3 sides by ghettos. Not everybody plays nice if you get my meaning...</p>

<p>Eighth, the school would not allow a student run paper or radio station during the time I attended even though there were formal requests made by students. The requests were entertained lightly until they were forgotten or the students gave up. The school later decided to start a paper but it was run by a specific staff. Students could contribute but not actually be in charge of anything. It's a perfect example of the 'Third Reich'-like underbelly the school had (and may very well still have).</p>

<p>Ninth, while the animation and game development departments may have industry connections, no one I know who has graduated has ever had any assistance with job placement or been able to utilize the school for such a thing. It's something I feel is even more crucial now for a college to do for it's graduates than it was 15 years ago. Prospective students and parents should do some serious research into that and find out what the true statistics/results are. Do not under any circumstances take the school's word for it.</p>

<p>Now that I've written all this, I'm sure it's going to be countered by "you-know-who". All I can say is, during the time I attended and the additional 3 years I chose to remain in Savannah, I learned that SCAD and some of it's staff are not to be trusted and had questionable ethics and methods. I have also followed the happenings related to the school in the years since I left Savannah and I do not believe that anything has changed in regards to how the school operates.</p>

<p>Savannah is a great place and I have fond memories of it. It does have a high crime rate and the pollution there is incredibly bad - paper mills, radioactive waste, weapons plants, chemical explosions, etc. The main thing is, while I do not believe attending SCAD would necessarily be a bad choice, I cannot recommend the school to anyone based on what I know about it's founders and experienced first hand as a student.</p>

<p>ASG</p>

<p>P.S. The link below has a good article detailing much of what I experienced.</p>

<p><a href="http://linguafranca.mirror.theinfo.org/9607/Savannah.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://linguafranca.mirror.theinfo.org/9607/Savannah.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>//First off, I would take 'Raining Again's responses with a grain of salt.//</p>

<p>Perhaps readers should take yours with a grain of salt as well?</p>

<p>//After reading a number of posts by this person, they seem to cover quite a wide range of topics that I really don't think any one person could be informed about.//</p>

<p>You are incorrect. I am that well-informed. I attended the college and worked for it for a few years in 2 departments as a staff member. I have access to a broad range of friends that work at SCAD presently in many positions. I also attend events and meet some students. </p>

<p>//Second, I graduated from the school in 1992. During the time I was there, the student revolt occurred. The bottom line was the students were unhappy with the way the school was being run.//</p>

<p>Absolutely correct. I had lunch just the other day with a SCAD MFA grad that graduated in 1992 like yourself, and knew Batman, the faculty, and went through the whole ordeal. I arrived a few years later so I missed out on the whole uproar. The concerns of the students and faculty were valid; and Richard and his ego - in addition to some legit concerns - created a bad situation.</p>

<p>//don't know what it's like now...//</p>

<p>Okay, so how are you qualified to speak as to SCAD in 2007?</p>

<p>//but based on my experiences there, the Rowans and their cronies are a shady group of individuals.//</p>

<p>You might have noticed that 15 years have gone buy; let's face it, the school went through significant growing pains.</p>

<p>//...it's obvious he [ Richard ] was just a figurehead and she was/is the evil matriarch running the show.//</p>

<p>Why do you jump to that assumption? Richard had an extremely strong ego. My personal experience with Paula Wallace was very different. And the college has responded top the needs of the students, like a Student Center, and a student-run newspaper.</p>

<p>//'d recommend staying away from that school until all the Rowans are pushing up daisies - and maybe give it another 10 to 20 years to see if the corruption dies too.//</p>

<p>You seem to have a severe chip on your shoulder. That is a mean statement. BTW, what corruption, you just stated you don't know what it is like now.</p>

<p>//Third, I would question any college that hires their graduates immediately after graduation to be professors.//</p>

<p>Yes, it does happen in a few departments, and it is not the best thing. But consider that the rapid growth of the college - plus a tainted public image based upon events in the early 1990s - have created some issues with staffing.</p>

<p>//Fourth, the comment has been made 'the school will accept anybody' which our pal RainingAgain has denied (like he/she/it is part of the acceptance committee?).//</p>

<p>I worked for admissions; I am very familiar with acceptance rates. And I am certain that during your time, the school did accept just about anyone. But as you said, you don't know what it is like now; I do. I have many close faculty and some staff friends - none of whom are in the "administration" by the way.</p>

<p>//And by that I mean people that have no business being in an art school at all.//</p>

<p>SCAD is not just a fine arts college; it is also a college of design arts. Many successful photographers can't draw worth a lick. Architecture requires one skill set, graphic design another, etc. What is the college's mission statement? To prepare students for professional careers. Sorry if that bothers you, but if you are someone gifted in painting or one of the fine art disciplines, sure - I can understand some of your frustrations, but they are misplaced.</p>

<p>//The school does not actively filter out folks that would be better suited to community education programs or turn away folks with no skills whatsoever.//</p>

<p>Would you please clarify how you can speak in the present tense when you: 1. graduated in 1992, and 2. admit you have no idea what it is like now?</p>

<p>//Fifth, I encountered a severe change over of professors while I attended and it was not due to the one year contract stipulations or their displeasure with Savannah.//</p>

<p>Sure, in 1992 there were many disgruntled faculty. And I am sure that not everyone is a happy camper in 2007, but I was told that faculty retention year to year is generally 95% these days.</p>

<p>//It being such a small school, I expected and looked forward to having many of the same professors throughout my time there. This was not the case and from what I've been able to gather, it does not appear to have changed.//</p>

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<li>It is no longer a small school.</li>
<li>It has changed much for the better.</li>
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<p>//Seventh, I was shot at (but not hit) one night while riding my bike down the street...Downtown Savannah is occupied by the well-to-do but surrounded on 3 sides by ghettos. Not everybody plays nice if you get my meaning..//</p>

<p>You might get shot at in NYC. No one denies the fact that Savannah has a problem with crime, but it does tend to get exaggerated. Also, during the time you attended, there was an extremely notorious street gang which was responsible for a great deal of problems. Still, the city has issues, I am sorry that SCAD cannot fix them. I notice that the school has a bicycle patrol force of it's own, building to building shuttles even after hours, and a patrol staff in vehicles as well. Plus the city attracts a lot of tourists. People do seem to get in and out without incident somehow.</p>

<p>//Eighth, the school would not allow a student run paper or radio station during the time I attended even though there were formal requests made by students.//</p>

<p>They have both. And they have two papers.</p>

<p>//The school later decided to start a paper but it was run by a specific staff. Students could contribute but not actually be in charge of anything. It's a perfect example of the 'Third Reich'-like underbelly the school had (and may very well still have).//</p>

<p>You reveal your ignorance of SCAD 2007. Yes, the Chronicle is staffed by the college, but The District is published entirely by students. </p>

<p>//Ninth, while the animation and game development departments may have industry connections, no one I know who has graduated has ever had any assistance with job placement or been able to utilize the school for such a thing.//</p>

<p>You graduated in 1992 and seem out of the loop as to present practice. One thing you conveniently dismiss and forget is that the college is located in a tiny provincial city. There are not a lot of opportunities here. However, the college has nurtured relationships within industries very well. Putting a campus in Atlanta was one "fix" to this dilemma. Dig?</p>

<p>//Now that I've written all this, I'm sure it's going to be countered by "you-know-who".//</p>

<p>Hello!</p>

<p>//All I can say is, during the time I attended and the additional 3 years I chose to remain in Savannah, I learned that SCAD and some of it's staff are not to be trusted and had questionable ethics and methods.//</p>

<p>Hello! It is 2007!</p>

<p>//I have also followed the happenings related to the school in the years since I left Savannah.//</p>

<p>Apparently not. You have a chip on your shoulder and see what you want to see. It's more than obvious.</p>

<p>BTW, I was not 100% satisfied with the college during my time; it wasn't perfect, but I have watched it - in person and through faculty friends/staff - make adjustments and address many of your concerns to a significant degree. It only seems as though my glasses are rose-colored because I refuse to let people like yourself - who remain upset and vindictive - to perpetuate viewpoints that are not applicable today. I understand where you are coming from, but the college has left 1992 in the past, while you cling to it.</p>

<p>//It does have a high crime rate and the pollution there is incredibly bad - paper mills, radioactive waste, weapons plants, chemical explosions, etc.//</p>

<p>LOL! Crime rate is not good. Pollution? You mean the paper mill smell? Union Camp was bought out and I don't know what happened, but it doesn't stink up the area on a daily basis like it used to. I don't like it either, but don't blame SCAD. Radioactive waste? I know what you are referring to - but you shouldn't make such statements w/o backing them up and explaining. I don't have the time for that one. Chemical explosions? You mean the ONE back in 1997ish? </p>

<p>//The main thing is, while I do not believe attending SCAD would necessarily be a bad choice, I cannot recommend the school to anyone based on what I know about it's founders and experienced first hand as a student.//</p>

<p>It is 2007, wake up and acknowledge the fact that the school has addressed many of the concerns you experienced in 1992.</p>

<p>It's unfortunate that Raining Again is constantly forced to defend SCAD. Discuss what you know, not what occurred 15 years ago or what you "heard" second-hand.</p>

<p>I have no connection to SCAD. My daughter attends RISD.</p>

<p>I just got back from my cousin's wedding with my other cousin who will be a soph at SCAD. He likes it--doesnt love it. He's considering dropping out of college altogether because he doesnt see much benefit paying that much for a film degree, nor does he think he'll miss out on anything he cannot learn himself. We met a guy at the wedding who didnt even go to college and started his own production company and is doing pretty well. </p>

<p>So anyway, my couz likes it, but 4/5 of his closest friends already transferred and the 5th might. From what he told me, it doesnt seem like SCAD has much in terms of student support. My couz had to drop out of his art history class because he wasnt doing well. I dont think anyone was there to keep him going. </p>

<p>He said for the most part, Savannah is entirely ghetto. I think he got held up or something. He told me that his friend down the hall--someone walked right through SCAD (lack of) security and held up this guy and robbed him. Then he went to another dorm to get his drug money. Also, two kids were kidnapped off campus.</p>

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<p>What occurred 15 years ago was significant and still haunts the school today. It IS what I know and nothing I spoke of was second-hand. I do not feel it should be swept under the rug, regardless of how many people say things have changed because the original problem is still in power there. Unfortunately, I just find it hard to believe that the current president of SCAD has changed and is no longer the paranoid shifty dictator she was 15 years ago. I would theorize she has worked hard to manufacture a better public image in this century but the dark core of pure evil still exists (lighten up, it's just a figure of speech). Until someone else is in the throne, my suspicions will remain intact.</p>

<p>Now RISD, that is the place I wish I'd attended.</p>

<p>//It does have a high crime rate and the pollution there is incredibly bad - paper mills, radioactive waste, weapons plants, chemical explosions, etc.//</p>

<p>LOL! Crime rate is not good. Pollution? You mean the paper mill smell? Union Camp was bought out and I don't know what happened, but it doesn't stink up the area on a daily basis like it used to. I don't like it either, but don't blame SCAD. Radioactive waste? I know what you are referring to - but you shouldn't make such statements w/o backing them up and explaining. I don't have the time for that one. Chemical explosions? You mean the ONE back in 1997ish?</p>

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<p>RainingAgain's eagerness to defend anything and everything astounds me. To the point that he makes many incorrect assumptions.</p>

<p>First, you gotta friggin' relax.</p>

<p>If you carefully and slowly re-read my post, I am not blaming SCAD for the pollution and crime problems. It doesn't even make any sense to jump to that conclusion. This forum is about SCAD which in turn, I feel ALSO makes it about Savannah. I think some parents and prospective students might be interested in knowing about the mass amounts of indutrial activity along the Savannah River that does affect the community. I would've liked to have known about it before I moved there and I hope to hell maybe they've wised up a bit and tried to clean things up. But aside from all that, I seriously doubt RainingAgain has the inside info on when the next toxic chemical explosion or radioactive leak will happen.</p>

<p>When I was there, one of the plants leaked radioactive tritium into the river. I'm pretty sure tritium's half-life is a little longer than 15 years...</p>