Schedule Rigor or Counselor Recommendation

<p>Basically, my school is overcrowded. Most classes have around 40+ people, sometimes almost 50. We are not allowed to go to our counselors without a pass from them due to the massive amount of students trying to change their classes.Now, the only way you can you could try to change your classes is by sending this change request form. My classes are not as rigorous as i want it to be and I already sent a class change request form but it was denied. I have talked to the teachers whose class I want to change to and they told me personally that they were fine with it. I am running out of options and I am becoming very desperate. Changing schools is not an option for me since I already have many commitments and I don't want to start all over again. Some of my options that are left is to bring my parents to complain, talk to the principal and complain, or talk to another counselor for another grade level but it's very controversial. If I do any of these and I do succeed, my counselor will probably hate me and she is the one who will write my recommendation. If it helps, she has over 800 students. SO my question is, Should I risk the quality of my future counselor recommendation for the possibility that my classes will be more rigorous or is counselor recommendation more valuable??</p>

<p>I’ve had SO MANY conflicts with my guidance counselor and principal. I’m still planning on asking her, unless the college counselor counts.</p>

<p>I’m glad i’m not the only one who’s having trouble with their counselor XD… but did your counselor ever got annoyed of you? Did you ever worry that he/she will give you a bad rec?</p>

<p>I wanted to get into a gym class but she said no and I said well then why are you putting other kids in and she said they were allowed, and then I found a rule saying you can’t have two gyms at the same time and said if I can’t have two gyms why are there like 30 kids in the class with 2 gyms and said I would call the department of education and then after a few days she took 30 kids out of the class. </p>

<p>Really more like 10 kids, I’m lying.</p>

<p>Still upset about the situation because 10 kids now hated my guts a friend and I wrote a five page article about our school’s phys ed for the school paper that my principal refused to let us publish, so we got it published on a blog for the city’s schools.</p>

<p>Oh wow, what exactly did you do? I can’t believe your still brave enough to talk to your counselor after all that conflict. I wish had the gut to keep seeing my counselor.</p>

<p>After that I tried to avoid her, but the times we do we exchange a nice hello and she called me up about a schedule conflict this summer and was nice about it.</p>

<p>However, I’m still scared and will do everything to get my rec written by the college counselor. In all honesty, the college counselor might even be the default person who writes them anyway.</p>

<p>Get your parents to do it. Honestly, I can never get anything done in my high school but I have my mom send an email and BOOM. Done. At the high school level I think teachers and principals still tend to respect parents a lot more than students.</p>

<p>Also I don’t think it’ll effect your rec, chances are if there are that many students there were TONS of those forms submitted, she most likely doesn’t even remember yours. Good luck!</p>

<p>^^^ Exact opposite at our school. They ignore parent messages and tell parents to have their kids talk to them. If you want it done then make an appointment.</p>

<p>Well I’m gonna try all of that! and good point, napalm2013, she probably won’t remember me. But that’s sad because that means I’m going to get a generic recommendation.</p>

<p>To get good relations with your counselor you have to talk with them outside when your scheduling. If you have any questions definately email them to your counselor to make him/her feel important (Even if you could ask it here, do both). Also always ask what you can do to help yourself (changing schedule etc.). Like this year I wanted to change classes and my counselor basically said I couldn’t because of the new school policy unless i got it approved by the board. So I emailed and met with people to change my schedule. Even though I failed my counselor call home to compliment me to my mother (which she had no idea I was doing it was surprised). And above all just treat them well and don’t be scared of counselors…They don’t bite</p>

<p>Wow that’s amazing! Thank you so much for your advice! I never would have thought of doing that. I’ll start being nice to them. Lately, I have only been thinking of ways to get revenge or something like scratching their car…so evil, i know… i feel guilty thinking about that. Its just that I was so mad and felt so powerless.</p>