<p>I didn't realize until recently that I have two classes that I wanted to take that are both at the same time (and that's the only time you can take either one). One is the engineering seminar 92 and the other is Computer Science 3. My first question is what do you think is more important to take? My second question is if, just to make sure, it is possible to have a different schedule than the one you signed for at Calso (the one that the advisor signed too). I'm not dramatically changing it, but this problem screws up my schedule a bit. Thanks a lot. My phase 2 is like tomorrow!</p>
<p>Why are you taking each course? Is comp 3 a pre req or something in your major? Is the engineering just for fuN?
What else are you taking? Why are you taking those?</p>
<p>yeah, why why why?~! o_O</p>
<p>i'm in engineering undeclared so they recommend eng seminar 92 for a good background for engineering. they said computer science 3 was a good beginning if i was thinking of doing eecs. i'm currently planningon taking math 1a, chem 1a, and psychology (if there wasn't that conflict it would total 16 units).</p>
<p>well i suggest the seminar over cs 3, cuz chem 1a will be taking up quite a bit of time</p>
<p>e92 = zzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
<p>they take role so you have to go. it's in bechtel aud. hot, stuffy, comfy seats, powerpoint presentations so all the lights are out. i had a hard time falling asleep in class my first semester so i usually stayed awake. when it was time to leave, i'd kick the seats as i walked down the aisle to help wake people up.</p>
<p>I'm engineering undeclared also, going to be a 2nd year. I was always under the impression that E92 was a required class, but they may have changed it. To me it wasnt that great (taken fall '04), you go once a week for an hour and listen to lecturers from different fields talk about what they do. Some are interesting, but for the most part kids just go in there and sleep/go on the internet on their laptops etc. At the end (or middle) of each lecture, they would give a 'key word' and you go online and answer a one multiple choice question on what it is. That was the entire class.</p>
<p>On the other hand, CS3 is an intro to computer programming class (using SCHEME) that is good for students taking the CS61A/B/C series (required for EECS) if they havent programmed before, but it is not required. However, Engineering 77 is a required class for all (I think) engineering majors other than EECS, and is an introduction to programming class using MATLAB. The thing is, if you take E77 and get a decent grade (about a B or so) then you can skip out of CS61A (and thus CS3). If you're up to it, I suggest doing E77, which will give more options as it will fulfill a requirement regardless of which engineering major you decide on. It will start off assuming you've had no prior experience in computer science so anyone can take it (I've never touched CS before and it wasnt that hard, and it even made decide to pursue the EECS route). So yeah, thats my take on things. Good luck!</p>
<p>Ps. you dont have to the schedule you made at Calso. You can keep adding/dropping classes to a completely different schedule if you want, no one really cares (or thats what I've noticed, at least).</p>
<p>BTBAM: I'm enrolled in E77 this fall. Is it a hard class? How much work does it require(time)? Are the tests hard? On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 the hardest, how hard is it to get an A in the class? How competitive is the grading? Will someone who never even considered doing eecs/cs (me) enjoy it? Thanks.</p>
<p>The class, to me wasnt really that hard, although others in my class were complaining. It does require a good amount of time though. You usually had a lab and homework assignment each week, turned in on friday. You dont have to go to the labs if you have MATLAB on your computer and dont need to help from TA's. The tests are pretty much in line with what is taught, nothing too out there. To me, I thought it was fairly simple to ace the class, lets say about a 3ish (keep in mind that although I've had no prior programming experience, this was my favorite class). My teacher (Papadupolous.. sp?) had a straight scale of like.. 85%+ was an A so you wont really be competing against the other students, however he did give extra credit assignments to maintain an average grade of 2.7 (a B-) in the class, because thats whats required for lower-division engineering or something like that. And for your last question: I never considered doing EECS going into college, I never touched any form of CS and was planning to go into MechE. But when I took this class (first year, first semester) I really really enjoyed it and it is what made me heavily consider EECS as a major (I took EECS20N and am going to take CS61B and if I still like it I'll do it). Its just thinking of creative ways to do stuff, so if you like that you'll like the class. Best of luck!</p>
<p>Thanks BTBAM.</p>
<p>How do you get MATLAB on your computer? Can you download it from the web?</p>
<p>you can either buy it from the student store for around $90, get a copy from a friend, or download it (if you're going to be a first year and staying in the dorms, you will most definately get DC++, a program similar to kazaa - it'll work on the school hub with downloads at 5mb/s, and it wont use any bandwidth). But buying it is the only 'legit' way of obtaining it... :)</p>
<p>I just realized engin 77 has a prerequisite of math 1b. i'm going to be taking 1a this semester - will they let me take it?</p>
<p>Ahh I never realized there was a prereq. They wont let you take E77 until you have completed 1b (or <em>maybe</em> if you took it at the same time, doubt it though).</p>