School Expulsion

I went to the US for a semester to High School and was expelled one month before the end of the program. The school didn’t report me, but I had to withdraw, like I just dropped out — they didn’t want to expel me, so that everyone sees it. I did that. I returned to Russia and went to my previous school in order to do everything possible to get my second semester. I did, finished a few days ago. I am glad. But the thing is that this fall I am going to apply to colleges, and I am a little bit scared of doing so. Like very scared. What basically the school did is they just changed my 90s to 77 GPA overall and stated that I had closed the semester. That was weird because they actually promised me assignments. I was pissed off when I found that they were not going to send them.

Here is my question:

Can I hide that I have studied in the US High School when applying to colleges? I mean, obviously, your response would be no, but listen up what I am trying to say. I am just sending 4 years of my Russian school coursework, and that’s it. Like nothing happened. Even if they notice I did studied in the US and ask me, I am going to come up with something. Like I had family issues, so I had to drop out or something like. Or maybe I can say that I didn’t like American school education and made a decision to go back to Russia in order to finish my school there. Something like that. The school, like I said, is not going to report anything on me even if colleges ask them. At least, that was our deal. I just don’t want bring this up.

If you say you didn’t like American school, why would an American college think you would like American college?

If you are asking if this ‘plan’ will work, it will not.

twoi, colleges and high schools are totally different things. It is commonly known fact that US secondary education kiind of sucks, whereas undergraduate education is considered either one of the best or the best. So, it adds up, I guess. I mean, another thing I can say is that I actually wanted to try American High School. Just wanted try for a semester. And I really wanted to get Russian diploma in case something goes bad in the US and I have to come back to Russia. It would be a matter of safety — like if I don’t like something in the US, I can come back and go to Russian universities with my diploma pretty much easily.

Can’t have it both ways. If you want to apply to American colleges, you are required to submit all transcripts.

If you don’t, the school can rescind your acceptance or expel you from college when they find out, and they will find out.

If the prep school isn’t going to ‘say anything bad’ then why not just submit the transcript?

Because the grades are bad. They don’t represent my real knowledge, that’s why I don’t want to send them .

And also how are they going to react if I have TWO transcripts for the second semester of my 10th grade? Does it make any sense? Can you study at two schools at the same time?

Do it your way. Don’t complain when it doesn’t work.

I am just trying to make sense here, and you are just saying “Do it your own way”. This is not what I expect.

When they “notice”, there is no explanation that can defend your lying on your application. At anytime in college, you can be kicked out for lying on your application. A college degree can be rescinded–for lying on your application. You are being short sided in your thinking. The time to explain your situation is on your application.

Well, okay, I am probably gonna send them all the transcripts, but it is gonna be messed up. It will not make any sense when they see my transcripts and notice that I studied at two schools at the same time.

OK, not that I’m encouraging this, or saying it’s the right thing to do, but since you finished in Russia anyway, how will anyone know that you even studied in the US. If they mention the gap, you can explain it away as a vacation. If they find out you can hand waive it off as the language barrier which you’ve since improved. The risk seems low.

That said, the risk is real and could end up in your acceptance being rescinded.

Also, you should, if you haven’t already, reflect pretty deeply on what you screwed up. You don’t get expelled for poor grades. Learn from that and don’t repeat it.

Good luck.

I was expelled for a bad talking with girls or something like that. Didn’t know that it mattered in the US. I fully realize that I was wrong. I don’t have any gaps in education. The point is that every college requires to send passport copies for international students, so they will notice F1-visa, and they will have some questions on it, such as “What is it? Why have not you told us?” or something like that.

Thank you for an adequate response to my thread. I really appreciate that.

Another option is to fix the transcript with the school. If you withdrew or they promised to let you finish online, then get the prep school to follow that and rather than the transcript showing the lower grades, it can show withdrawals and no gpa.

The school is not going to do anything like that even though they promised to do that.

Um, you need to send only the identity page of your passport, not the whole thing, so the chance of the school finding out is very low. And I think being actively misogynist or sexually harassing girls is a strong reason to expel someone.

I totally agree with about the expulsion. But I have not really done anything bad. And I am not sure if it can be considered as sexual harassment. It does not really matter right now.

Speaking of passport thing, are you sure about this? I mean, it makes sense, but I still don’t know. Some websites say “A copy of your passport”. Is it only identity page? I mean they don’t ask you to send all the visas you have, it would be dumb, but I am not sure.

I applied to colleges as an intl student last year and I assure you it’s just the identification page

What colleges if it is not a secret? Do they whether you have any US visas? To your mind, will they really care if they spot F1 visa?

Wow. You don’t get expelled for something minor. Getting expelled means you did something pretty egregious. And the fact that you are trying to cover this all up smacks of seriously rotten fish.

And how are you going to answer this question on your applications: Have you ever been found responsible for a disciplinary violation at any educational institution you have attended from the 9th grade (or the international equivalent) forward, whether related to academic misconduct or behavioral misconduct, that resulted in a disciplinary action?