<p>Since this school is part of the NY State system, does it mean it is much easier to get in?</p>
<p>Not really because you have out-of-state applicants and in-state applicants applying to the school. The in-state applicants are among the fiercest competition, but do indeed have an advantage in the admissions process.</p>
<p>No, ILR is not a SUNY school, it's simply given money by the state because of some grant. The state schools are the same quality as the rest of Cornell and are still ivy league, except they give a slight preference to QUALIFIED applicants from New York.</p>
<p>But you pay a lot less than non-SUNY Cornell students do.</p>
<p>is it advisable to apply to ILR if you wanna go to med school? I wanna do this because its slightly easier to get in and Im in-state. Is this advisable?</p>
<p>What is your intended major? Otherwise, you can apply to CALS if you want to be a bio major.</p>
<p>Sorry to ask you guys but what is SUNY and CALS?</p>
<p>SUNY schools are a part of the same system, you get a SUNY degree from them...the state funded schools at Cornell are not part of the SUNY system, as you get a Cornell degree, not a SUNY Cornell degree. Yes, the tuition is reduced for NY residents because it has some sort of financial grant from the state, but that doesn't make it SUNY, there's a difference.</p>
<p>thank you Spanks ... i hate it when my friends mention "SUNY Cornell" ... if i wanted to go to a SUNY school, i would have gone to one, it sure would be much cheaper. Its a little less expensive since i live in NY, but I hardly call $30,000 a year cheap (the tuition for SUNY schools is around $4500 a year). I go to Cornell ILR. I would have gone to the ILR school whether or not i was a NY state resident. Cornell ILR is much much different from SUNY (and it blows away all of the SUNY school in regard to academics, reputation, the works!!!).</p>
<p>I would not say it is easier. The acceptance rate is about 30% and the mean SAT is about 1380, with 85% graduating in the top 10% of their high school class.</p>
<p>At any rate. ILR makes more sense if you intend to go to Law School. For premeds, I would redcommend CALS.</p>
<p>CALS or CAS, depending on your interests and goals. CAS gives a broader liberal arts education with your major versus the more isolated and science focused CALS majors. The majors that overlap between the colleges are the same, but the other requirements, which are what i'm talking about, differ. </p>
<p>Acceptance rate should dictate what you pretend your interests are. Don't pretend you're interested in ILR if you want to be an engineer just because of acceptance rate or something. (completely hypothetical, engineer has a higher acceptance rate, i know)</p>
<p>NOTHING AT CORNELL IS SUNY! It is entirely private; cornell just recieves a tuition incentive from NY state so they keep the ILR HE and ALS colleges. not that they would get rid of them or anything...it's just that NY state feels the schools are of particular value to the state...</p>
<p>b/c of all this nonsense, cornell's low sat scores, i am starting to think maybe i should have gone elsewhere. It is really annyoing that Cornell's SAT Scores suck compared to other schools. I turned down 3-4 schools that blow Cornell in SAT scores, and I am getting irritated by it. Wash U a year ago was 1320-1480, and now it is 1350-1530, alrite. Cornell is like now 1290-1490, it is honestly embarassing to be honest with you, and i think i want to transfer b/c of this very issue. everyone says ivy league, but it means nothing to me. I am really fed up w. all the bs that goes on here. All of the other schools are rising, and Cornell's student body just is WEAK. Sorry guys, i am not a satisified customer, paying 43,000 a year.</p>
<p>lol,wow, you're a douche...who goes to a school solely based on SAT scores? Who do you think you are to criticize the entire student body? I hope you transfer, Cornell doesn't need people like you :). The other schools are rising? Brown dropped below Cornell this year, if you're going to be a prestige whore. You knew about the SAT scores before you got here, so I don't see why you're whining after you made the decision.</p>
<p>Switch to engineering where the SAT is like 1350-1510... Seriously, though, if you take out specialty schools (especially Hotel (1230-1400) and AAP (1240-1440)) where admission is based primarily NOT on SAT, the ranges should be about the same. </p>
<p>Here's a complete listing:
Engineering: 1350-1510
CAS: 1330-1500
ILR: 1280-1450
CHE: 1280-1430
AAP: 1240-1440
Hotel: 1230-1400
CALS: 1250-1430
<a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/irp/pdf/FactBook/Enrollment/Undergraduate/current_con.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/irp/pdf/FactBook/Enrollment/Undergraduate/current_con.pdf</a>
<a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/irp/pdf/FactBook/Enrollment/Undergraduate/current_end.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/irp/pdf/FactBook/Enrollment/Undergraduate/current_end.pdf</a></p>
<p>Edit: I'm not saying students in some schools are dumber or anything, just different schools require different mathematical/reading ability or whatever characteristics the SAT judges.</p>
<p>Not counting the Hotel school, does a lower average SAT score at one of the particular colleges indicate they care less about the SATs or they have less qualified candidates?</p>
<p>bball87-Since you're going to have to stay here for at least a year, lmk your GPA at the end of the year. If it's 4.0 and you feel like you're not being challenged, then, by all means, transfer. If it turns out to be 3.5, then you should probably keep your mouth shut about the "quality" of students here.</p>
<p>Bball, it is sad that you judge your university...and yourself on the average SAT scores of the students in your school.</p>
<p>"qualified to do what" is an important question. Hotel admissions are very dependent on previous hospitality experience, and AAP admissions are very dependent on portfolio. It doesn't reflect the quality of the applicants, it just reflects that DIFFERENT qualities are important in that field.</p>
<p>Bball, you should transfer. If you aren't happy with Cornell, then it probably is in your best interest to go to another school. However, before you judge Cornell on its overall SAT Scores (1290-1490), you should think about the different undergraduate colleges inside of Cornell. Colleges such as Architecture, Art, and Planning and the school of hotel administration do not rely on SAT Scores as heavily as schools like Arts and Sciences and Engineering. With AAP, submitting a portfolio is important. One of my best friends who is in AAP is a fantastic artist and showed me all of the work she had to submit. They based her admission more so on her artwork than on her SATs. With hotel administration, experience in the field of hospitality is highly desired, more so than SAT Scores. I have a few friends in the school of hotel administration, and each and everyone one of them have a lot of work experience, and I completely understand why the hotel school would except them over students with higher Sat Scores, but lesser work experience.</p>
<p>Cornell's student body is not weak. (Let's hypothetically say that it were. If that were the case, I think that you are shooting your ownself in the foot because you are a member of the student body and therefore calling yourself weak). The different colleges inside of Cornell do not all weigh SAT Scores equally. I'm sorry that some colleges at Cornell want really great artists, photographers, potential fashion designers, potential hotel and resort owners, etc., and decide not to rely as heavily on the SAT in the admissions process as you would like them to do.</p>
<p>so basically Cornell CAS is equivalent to like UPenn CAS according to that data. Penn is 1330-1500, which is pushed up by Wharton and Engineering, so i am assuming Penn CAS is around that mark, so the two are virtually equal.</p>