schools & auditions

<p>This may sound repetitive compared to other threads but w/e :)
I'm a HS junior hoping to pursue a double major in vocal performance and music education. I think I've finally narrowed my search of colleges to within my area...I'm looking at Ithaca, U of Hartford, Rowan U, and possibly Bucknell U. Can anyone comment on the music programs, selectivity, what level of ability they're looking for in auditions...?
I'm one of those paranoid people. I like to know where I stand/what my chances are!
Thanks!</p>

<p>You can read my responses to a very similar question about Hartt (U/Hartford) here: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=354634%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=354634&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The level of performance at Hartt is very high, admission by audition is very competitive. There all also some academic requirements for the music ed programs that must be met. </p>

<p>I can't speak to the other schools you've mentioned with the exception that Ithaca does have a superb music ed program.</p>

<p>Music Education Schools and Auditions</p>

<p>Intuneambition,</p>

<p>Please feel encouraged to contact me with any questions you may have about The Hartt School of the University of Hartford. I can also assist you with scheduling a campus visit/tour. My direct phone number is 860.768.4148</p>

<p>The Eastman School of Music also has a notable Music Education program.</p>

<p>My DD is a freshman right now, but with the same interest in major as you.
Schools we will probably be looking at include:
(In no particular order)
The Hartt School of Music
Eastman School of Music
Crane School of Music/SUNY Potsdam
Oberlin
Ithaca
Boston U
UConn
Univ Cincinatti/Conservatory of Music
McGill U
Arizona State
UMich
Westminster Choir College
U Indiana </p>

<p>Are you sure you're not limiting yourself with your choices? I'm not seeing much in terms of a safety for you. Maybe SUNY Potsdam?
Also, be aware as you plan that most of the above schools will require 4-5 years for full completion of both vocal performance and music ed. </p>

<p>Let us know how your search process goes!</p>

<p>I am planning for a visit to Hartford this July :)
As for limiting my schools, I am admittedly being picky with my criteria. I am looking for a school within 4 hours (driving) of where I live in central Jersey, that is medium-sized, with a reputable or at least well-founded music program and Bachelor of Music degrees in Voice performance, Music ed, and Theory/composition (I have an interest in composition, so I need a strong program there too, and if I ever switched my major it might be into that field). I also require that there be a double-major option (with Music ed and voice)..and this is why I'm probably going to exclude Bucknell. I also am looking for schools that do not have different campuses for the main college and the music school. This is one of the reasons I've excluded Eastman, for example, on top of the fact that it's extremely competetive! And one more thing...some of the schools that have great music programs expect too much of incoming freshmans' academics. I do well in school and try to challenge myself with honors courses, etc., but I have not taken an over-the-top amount of academics; I use most of my elective credits in HS for music courses.</p>

<p>As if I needed to add any more, I would like all this to lead to a career and/or a higher degree in choral conducting. If that makes a difference for anyone who replies.</p>

<p>Thanks so much!</p>

<p>One of my favorites for what you want is Duquesne in Pittsburgh.</p>

<p>My school counselor suggested Duquesne as well, but it doesn't have the degree program I want. >:0
Thanks though!</p>

<p>Don't forget that depending on if you want to emphasize the music ed aspect over the vocal performance aspect ... with some of the schools it might be easier to get in as a music ed major than a vocal performance major. Of course, you might not get exactly your pick of performance opportunities.</p>

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<p>Intuneambition...this is from your OP. Duquesne offers both performance AND music education degrees. What exactly is it that they don't offer that you are looking for? I will say...Duquesne's music education program is very highly regarded. It is also an intense course of study (as most Music ed programs are).</p>

<p>My D has Duquesne on her list for vocal performance. I am a little intimidated by the audition info on the website - there is a lot of theory and they don't say it is for placement only. Perhaps it is though. One thing to point out - they do not supply accompanists for auditions unless they are specifically requested at least 2 weeks prior to the audition.</p>

<p>I do not know what Duquesne requires now...but when DS auditioned there, he had to pass the musical audition on his instrument AND the theory exam. However, he said the exam was not particularly difficult (he had had several summers of music theory and a high school AP music theory course...and played piano). He did say that a lot of the kids were complaining about how difficult this test was. Back in 2003, if you didn't pass the theory exam the first time, but did well on your audition, you were given another chance to take it.</p>

<p>My D is starting piano lessons this summer and is taking ear training from the same teacher and will have AP Music Theory next year so theory may be a challenge her in the early auditions.</p>

<p>Duquesne does not have a Bachelor of Music degree in mus. ed...I don't just want a strong program, I also want as much as my curriculum in music as possible, to learn as much as possible while working toward my degree.
The theory is not a huge concern either; I study theory in school and in private lessons, and I take examinations, etc.</p>

<p>I have considered the applying-then-auditioning scenario, but I like to get things over with! :P</p>

<p>Duquesne does have a Bachelor's degree in music education, and it is a VERY strong program. A BM is usually a performance degree.</p>

<p>intuneambition: isn't William Patterson University a very strong music school? Or do you want to leave your home state, and that's why you didn't mention it?</p>

<p>William Patterson's strengths are mostly in jazz...</p>

<p>Take a look at Montclair State and Wagner College.</p>

<p>Montclair doesn't yet have the program I'm looking for...I'll look check out William Patterson and Wagner though.</p>

<p>intune. ...could you please be more specific about what you are looking for? Many of the programs being suggested to you have both music education and music performance programs. For some reason, your reply to everyone is the same "doesn't have what I'm looking for". If you are very specific, perhaps someone will be able to give you the very specific response you are looking for.</p>

<p>What about Rutgers Mason Gross School of Music or College of New Jersey.</p>