Schools in California

[Erin_s_Dad]

<p>Residency requirements from the UCLA web site: <a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/respronew.htm”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/respronew.htm&lt;/a&gt;

The financial independence requirement makes it extremely difficult for most undergraduate students whose parents are not California residents, including students from community colleges and other post-secondary institutions within California, to qualify for classification as a resident at the University of California. Transfer students who were classified as residents of California at their previous school should not assume that they will be classified as residents at UCLA.

<a href=“UC Legal - Office of the General Counsel | UCOP”>UC Legal - Office of the General Counsel | UCOP;

<p>It ain’t easy.</p>

[2018dad]

<p>Cal Poly SLO has great CS program (or Comp. Engg or Software Eng’g) and it’s a little bit cheaper than a UC and just few miles from the beach. It’s very competitive though and admission is mostly GPA/score based.</p>

[drax12]

<p>@Erin’s Dad, the key is working in CA, gaining independence, paying CA income tax.</p>

[drax12]

<p>@jkeil99 … peace, brah…</p>

[AnnieBeats]

<p>Is that a weighted GPA? If so, that’s not enough to get you into Berkeley or LA</p>

[orangemaple]

<p>OK, let’s see. 3.86 is unweighted (my school doesn’t do weighted GPAs). South is out, unfortunately. And it looks like the UCs are out in terms of merit aid, OK. </p>

<p>Is Cal Poly Pomona good at computer science/engineering? </p>

<p>As for UW, I’m in-state, and no worries there’s something called GET (or 529?), so UW is a financial safety here (if only their CSE dept was easier to get into…)</p>

[BrownParent]

<p>Well he needs to calculate UC gpa if applying to UCs.But mom2 didn’t say anything about quality of UC. She said they won’t give merit and that is true. There really isn’t any but in rare exception for oos UC. USC does give merit but it is hard to get. Your stats aren’t out of the question if there is some element about you that is compelling it is possible. </p>

<p>OP should realize that some colleges and college town creates it’s own culture and vibe. When people are searching for schools that are affordable it isn’t a bad thing to point out.</p>

<p>Cal Poly SLO is a great suggestion as the grads do very very well in job placement in Silicon Valley. Yes Cal Poly Pomona is also good at CS/engineering, not as talked about as SLO and a little more of a commuter school but is a solid more affordable choice. Not near the beach, except by car 45 minutes no traffic. In traffic it could be twice that.</p>

<p>OP you would have to move to CA without attending college and become self supporting and then you might get instate but I don’t know how that would work if you needed parental money for college. I don’t know why this came up.</p>

[orangemaple]

<p>@BrownParent‌ Some posters before were asking about if my parents would really pay for my state flagship and that was my answer to them. I’m not trying to get in-state tuition</p>

<p>Yeah, Cal Poly SLO and Pomona are options now too…</p>

[tk21769]

<p>An out-of-the-box safety school suggestion:
New College of Florida, a liberal arts “honors college” located on Florida’s Gulf Coast.
<a href=“New College of Florida - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_College_of_Florida&lt;/a&gt;
(see the “Rankings” and “Grad school acceptance” sections)</p>

<p>NCF would be much cheaper than UCLA or Berkeley at full-pay rates, put you right on the beach, and give you much more individual attention than most large research universities would.
<a href=“New College of Florida – Colleges That Change Lives”>http://www.ctcl.org/colleges/new-college&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The downside:<br>
NCF does not have a robust Computer Science department with all the courses usually covered at a larger university. You’d have to combine the “Computational Science” major with courses in a complementary discipline. That could be a good thing, for the right person.
<a href=“http://www.ncf.edu/computational-science/computational-science-curriculum”>http://www.ncf.edu/computational-science/computational-science-curriculum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>NCF does offer merit scholarships for OOS students.
<a href=“http://www.ncf.edu/out-of-state-freshmen”>http://www.ncf.edu/out-of-state-freshmen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[ucbalumnus]

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@drax12

It would be harder to obtain residency through your parents, but there are a good no. of oos students who do gain independence, work, and obtain residency themselves while attending community college in CA and later transfer to UC.

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<p>However, this may be because they are non-traditional students who are over 24, married, or military veterans.</p>

<p>As far as merit scholarships go at UCs, there really are not many available at all, although there are some, and out-of-state students are eligible for some of them (e.g. Regents’ scholarships).</p>

[drax12]

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drax12 wrote:
It would be harder to obtain residency through your parents, but there are a good no. of oos students who do gain independence, work, and obtain residency themselves while attending community college in CA and later transfer to UC.</p>

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@ucbalumnus

However, this may be because they are non-traditional students who are over 24, married, or military veterans.</p>

<p>As far as merit scholarships go at UCs, there really are not many available at all, although there are some, and out-of-state students are eligible for some of them (e.g. Regents’ scholarships).

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<p>Undoubtedly, some of this is true, wrt 1st para. I don’t know the specifics, but I knew a couple people who were maybe a year or so older, not 24, nor were they married, nor veterans. They might have had to sit out a period of time – but this is what cc is for; also to work, to pay CA taxes. I don’t know the ins and outs myself. Neither am I saying for the family to set up a false situation where the child is not really employed but the family is doing this to give an air of the child being independent. But I don’t think it takes big-time employment, either. Something for the child to show UC that he/she is a taxpaying citizen of CA, whether interning at McDonald’s, Carl’s, wherever, student store.</p>

<p>Re, second para, I didn’t say merit within UC, but merit without (outside) of UC. </p>

[drax12]

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@brownparent

Well he needs to calculate UC gpa if applying to UCs.But mom2 didn’t say anything about quality of UC. She said they won’t give merit and that is true. There really isn’t any but in rare exception for oos UC. USC does give merit but it is hard to get. Your stats aren’t out of the question if there is some element about you that is compelling it is possible.

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<p>Needs to calculate, UC gpa, uw a-g, and fully w a-g.</p>

[orangemaple]

<p>I think my UC GPA right now is a 4.17 (counting 8 semesters of AP and i’ve only taken a-g courses I think). </p>

[dividerofzero]

<p>UC has both a capped and uncapped weighted GPA, so you can’t count all 8 semesters of AP courses.</p>

[MLM]

<p>If considering Cal Poly SLO, you need to calculate your gpa weighted & unweighted for Freshman, Sophomore and Junior year. They cap AP’s. SLO uses an unusual point system/algorithm for admissions (unlike other CSU’s), explained here <a href=“http://www.act.org/epc/ppt/EPC%202013%20F1.2%20Maraviglia%20Amos.pdf”>http://www.act.org/epc/ppt/EPC%202013%20F1.2%20Maraviglia%20Amos.pdf&lt;/a&gt; . They also admit by major. </p>

[drax12]

<p>@orangemaple, </p>

<p>So let me recap what we know of your situation.</p>

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<li><p>You are a resident of Washington</p></li>
<li><p>You’d ideally like to attend college in CA. UDub is “fallback”</p></li>
<li><p>Your stats: UWGPA (a-g) 3.86, Fully WGPA = UCGPA 4.17 (Capped A/P’s and total =8, and include grades for summer after frosh year and summer before senior year if you’re taking any now), ACT, 33, SAT 2220 </p></li>
<li><p>Later, elliminated UC’s, good idea, but curiously considering CP’s at SLO and Pomona</p></li>
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<p>Good stats, you should be in at both CP’s. But I’m just wondering why you’re considering them? OOS cost is cheaper at ~ $20,000 full sticker, versus $36,000 non-resident at UC, with r&b and other costs yet to be added, another $16,000, with total at CP at ~ $36,000. Are you okay with this?</p>

<p>Sorry, for my airing my grievances against @mom2collegekids in your thread; I along with other UC (particularly UCLA) grads have had longtime contentions with her, but her advice, though robotically presented (and stated 100’s of times and thus becoming spiel-like) is pretty sage advice for you not to consider the UC. </p>

<p>You have to decide if the $36K/year is okay at the CP’s. I was offering some unconventional methods of your possible dream of the UC’s, and though there are some who gain entry to the U through this side door, it does take great maturity to pull this off, almost equal to those helicopter kids – I think they’re called. And unless you want to intern (j/k) at McD’s, or Carls… </p>

<p>Otherwise, it’d probably be best to consider first and foremost, the UDub. Excellent CS, and sciences related to this. Forget Florida: miles of beaches, but the humidity sucks.</p>

<p>Best of Luck… </p>

[orangemaple]

<p>@drax12 thank you for that excellent recap. It seems that UDub right now is the best choice for me. That Cali sun tho…oh well</p>

[drax12]

<p>You’re welcome. Also, if you do want to consider some of the lesser-known privates, especially the Jesuit related colleges of CA: LMU, SCU, USD (per mom2collegekids), USF … they all have CS some incombination with E or EE and undoubtedly offer some good FA. Problem is, I don’t know how reputable they are. I imagine SCU, because of its proximity to Silicon, might be pretty good. I know its business major is good, but I"m not real familair with its CS program. BOL…</p>

[drax12]

<p>Let me edit: “I imagine SCU, because of its [immersion within, both in relation and location to,] Silicon, might be pretty good.” There are a good no. of tech companies in Santa Clara. BOL x 3…</p>

[mom2collegekids]

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For instance she said that UCLA was ‘concrete cityscape,’ which couldn’t be anything further from the truth. This after she claimed that she and her son visited the campus.
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<p>@drax
??? I doubt I said that my opinion came from a campus visit with my son. I have been on UCLA’s campus probably 50 times…at least…starting long before i even had kids.</p>

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<p>I doubt that unless the student gets higher scores or has some hook. His test scores arent that high for the school. He is in the middle quartiles.</p>