Schools on the rise

<p>Back to the topic at hand, College of Charleston has really seen a rise in popularity and enrollment.</p>

<p>fordham is on the rise</p>

<p>Out of interest would you consider Tufts on the rise?
it seems to be losing a bit of the ‘back up school for ivy rejects’ tag</p>

<p>I have a soft spot for Tufts… Idk why. I just love it. I would have loved to attend… and it was probably my second choice school after Emory. Anyways, I think Tufts is a school on the rise because it is underrated to begin with. More and more people are realizing its a great school.</p>

<p>I second (third?) UGA as on the rise. It’s now a top 20 public school, top 60 overall. And the Honors College has average SAT scores and GPAs that are equal to or higher than some of the Ivies.</p>

<p>Rise</p>

<p>Washington University in St. Louis
Rice University
University of Southern California
Tulane University
Claremont McKenna College</p>

<p>Fall</p>

<p>UCLA
UC Berkley
Boston College</p>

<p>On the rise - Northeastern University</p>

<p>Why do people keep basing colleges’ capacities for a future “rise” on selectivity alone. Keep in mind that this factor alone accounts for 15% even on the USNews rankings. Foreign rankings don’t factor selectivity in their research at all. </p>

<p>Nevertheless, given that most people often reference USNews in their arguments, wouldn’t it be more appropriate to at least factor in the other factors involved (possible improvement of academic programs, budget increases, standing in the academic community, etc)?</p>

<p>Seriously, the only thing that can drastically change a college’s standing is the peer assessment score. A few percent change in the acceptance rate will affect about 1.5% of the ranking (its 10% of the 15% allotted for selectivity).</p>

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<p>Increases in selectivity improve the quality of the student bodies.</p>

<p>^^^Oh come on. A few points on the SAT?! Really?!</p>

<p>And I still fail to see how a more accomplished student body would translate into better academics. A better education maybe, but it would take a long time for such changes to have a substantial, quantifiable effect on the academic standing of a school.</p>

<p>President Gee’s idea of forging ‘One University’

  • One Ohio State FrameWork</p>

<h2>Brief Intro Video: [player[/url</a>]</h2>

<p>As an alumnus, it is thrilling to be able to appreciate President Gordon Gee not only as the most experienced College President in America, but also a transformational leader with an unpararell vision on way(s) to excel academically for the Ohio State University. Official Link: [url=<a href=“http://fod.osu.edu/afp/campus_3.htm]One”>http://fod.osu.edu/afp/campus_3.htm]One</a> Ohio State Framework](<a href=“http://streamwww.classroom.ohio-state.edu/flash/FOD/Framework-high/]player[/url”>The Ohio State University)</p>

<p>As he did at Brown and then at Vanderbilt, Gordon Gee has Ohio State on the move…upwards. While size and mission will make this a more difficult task at a place like Ohio State, it is clear that this school has a lot of positive momentum, unlike many of its Big Ten brethren.</p>

<p>^^Once again, thanks for the kind words, hawkette!! lol
As President Gee stated that his task would be to transform Ohio State from a educational plateform of an elephant into a ballerina through not only vertical integrations but also horizontal interdisplinary connections. hmm… I honestly do not see tOSU leapfrog like USC has been in next month’s USNWR ranking. Nonetheless, I do expect a significant advancement in terms of overall quality of the institution over the next decade or so. Either athletically or academically, it is rather exciting to be a buckeye these days!! :)</p>

<p>I guess hawkette says good things about her alma mater.</p>

<p>rjk,
Not sure where you’re getting your information from, but anyway, do you have anything to present that might reach a different conclusion about my and sparkeye’s positive view of Ohio State’s current momentum and its prospects for the next 3-5 years?</p>

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<p>One University? copycat! :P</p>

<p>^^ are you serious? ;p</p>

<p>The ‘One University’ is not just another campaign slogan for the school. Rather, it was recently developed after 3-year-long extensive partnership effort between the Sasaki Asso. & campus-wide constituencies at The Ohio State University to put together a Master Plan that would best serve all the needs as well as propel the school for the next few decades. Welcome to check out Project One - ‘part of’ One University</p>

<p>[YouTube</a> - ProjectONE](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtpMXFpzJfw]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtpMXFpzJfw)</p>

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<p>The Vanderbilt Story:</p>

<p>Vanderbilt’s success over the past six years, since Gordon Gee became the university’s seventh Chancellor, is indisputable. Since 2000, Vanderbilt has:</p>

<p>…Completed a $1.25 billion capital campaign two years ahead of schedule and raised the goal to $1.75 billion – with an emphasis on endowed scholarships and faculty chairs.</p>

<p>…Grown the University’s endowment by almost 50 percent, to more than $3 billion, during some of the most tumultuous years for investments in the stock market¸ helping ensure a future that will allow for continued strong support of student, faculty, research, medical and other core mission needs.</p>

<p>…Led the country in the rate of growth for academic research, with external funding increasing from $232 million in 2000 to more than $450 million.</p>

<p>…Doubled the annual budget for financial aid from $30 million to $60 million, and reduced significantly the debt burden for graduating students.</p>

<p>…Launched the $100 million Academic Venture Capital Fund to seed new research centers in life sciences, social sciences, humanities, culture which have led to important discoveries and insights and new educational opportunities for undergraduates.</p>

<p>…Seen a more than 50 percent increase in applications for admission, from 8,000 in 2000 to almost 13,000 in 2006.</p>

<p>… Become one of the most selective institutions in the country. The increased number and high caliber of students seeking admission have enabled us to fill each class from a smaller percentage of the application pool. In higher education, the lower the rate of admission, the more selective the school. We now admit one-third of applicants versus more than twice that percentage just seven years ago.</p>

<p>… Become the destination school for these top students. The number of students accepting the University’s offer of admission (“yield”) has increased from 26 percent to over 40 percent in the past seven years.</p>

<p>…Renewed its commitment to being one of a small number of private universities that admit applicants regardless of their ability to pay and that meet the full demonstrated financial need of all students so that a Vanderbilt education is affordable to all.
…Seen a significant increase in student quality, with average SAT scores rising almost 100 points, and more than 90 percent of incoming students coming from the top 10 percent of their high school classes.</p>

<p>…Led one of the most rapid changes in diversity, with a 50 percent increase in minority students.</p>

<p>…Recruited faculty from the top universities in the country, and around the world, in such fields as literature, history, Jewish studies, biomedical imaging, law and education, among many others.</p>

<p>…Ensured that faculty salaries are among the highest in the country, ranking in the top three for private research universities when adjusted for cost of living.</p>

<p>…Selected as one of the 25 “Hot Colleges” for 2007 by the Kaplan-Newsweek College Guide.</p>

<p>… Risen from 22 to number 18 in the latest US News and World Report rankings, with graduate schools of law, divinity, medicine, business and education all ranked among the best in the world.</p>

<p>…Completed or began construction of more than $700 million new facilities for medical research, student services, studio arts, engineering, law, children’s health, diabetes care, performing arts, interdisciplinary work in arts and sciences, tennis, baseball, Jewish life and African-American culture, with many more new buildings underway.</p>

<p>…Become the most-preferred provider of health care services in Middle Tennessee, with the opening of the most advanced children’s hospital in the country and new clinical services in a number of areas.</p>

<p>…Begun construction of The Commons, a $150 million investment in the undergraduate experience that will transform student life by creating a “campus within a campus” for first year students .</p>

<p>Source: <a href=“Vanderbilt University”>Vanderbilt University;

<p>RISE:
USC, Baylor, UMiami, NYU, Emory, Rice</p>

<p>FALL:
Tulane is all I can think of for now…</p>

<p>USC-Speaks for itself
Baylor-New President Ken Starr who prosecuted Bill Clinton, 1 billion dollar endowment, major research university
UMiami-Used to be a party school, attracts many northeastern kids who want warm weather and are very smart
NYU-Did not used to be as academically challenging to be admitted
Emory-Getting much more recognition internationally and from the northeast
Rice-Because Texas is so big most of the students that were more than qualified came from here, but it is expanding a little bit more to other states</p>

<p>Tulane-Sends out applications to drop it’s admission rate, hardly anyone out of the admitted attends, is in one of the worst cities in the U.S.; every night there are 5 or 10 armed robberies that occur, rapes, and an extreme sense of alcohol presence there more than any other school, the faculty is beyond horrible, and generally students wish they could be somewhere else but attended since they were not admitted to a better school, also has a poor research amount…the school will only continue to drop has it has already fallen to 50th, in a few years it will likely be in the low 60s to 70s</p>

<p>Fallenchemist will hopefully respond to the above post, as he has lots of data to respond. Suffice it to say that it has been explained ad nauseum that Tulane is located in a beautiful part of NOLA surrounded on most sides by gorgeous homes in the garden district. Most urban areas have crime, and NOLA is no different. The crime that has occurs in NOLA is for the most part nowhere near campus. Occasional incidents may occurs near campus, but this is also true for schools in Chicago, Philly, Baltimore, NY, Houston, etc. The crime near Ga Tech is worse than Tulane’s. The faculty is very good at Tulane and most students are extremely happy. In fact, their retention rate has risen to the point that they are having some housing issues now. I relate the increased retention to the overall academically stronger student body. It comments above are ignorant and insulting.</p>

<p>Wow, not sure what Texans problem with Tulane is (get turned down, did we?), but his “facts” are anything but. Let’s start at the end and work backwards.</p>

<p>Using USNWR rankings is highly flawed for reasons that have been discussed on CC ad infinitum (and ad nauseum), but let’s examine it anyway. Tulane has fallen from in the 30’s to 50th after Katrina, but actually moved up a notch last year and will move up more, most likely. Hard to say since USNWR changes their formula from time to time. Why did they fall? Their PA (peer assessment) score fell after the school had to close for a semester, and the people that score these things only got the impression from the news that New Orleans, and hence by extension Tulane, was underwater and devastated. That was true for certain parts of the city, but never was for Tulane after the initial few days. But that never got reported. In fact, this past year Tulane, through its President Scott Cowen, was recognized by the Canegie Foundation with a $500,000 award (one of only 4 schools so honored) and Cowen was named by Time Magazine as one of the top 10 university presidents. I think it is fair to say that without Tulane New Orleans might have indeed died (it is the city’s largest employer), and the school and its students have been completely instrumental in rebuilding the city through every department. Architecture students get the rare opportunity to see their work actually built while they are there, the med school is clearly instrumental as is the school of social work, the business students have helped numerous local people recover, and Tulane is completely involved in the complete restructuring of the school system, just to name a few things. Yes, I have to agree with Texan, sure sounds like a school on the decline.</p>

<p>To further its status as being on the “decline”, they have gotten huge increases in applications. Texan would lead you to believe this is because they flood the market with free apps, and there is a grain of truth to that (more on that in a minute). But the facts are that they started doing that in 2002 and there was not a big increase at the time, just a moderate one. Starting 3 years ago as students clearly a lot smarter than Texan realized Tulane was a fantastic opportunity, applications rose from around 20,000 to 34,000 then 40,000 and this last year 44,000. Yes, it results in an artificially low admissions rate (under normal circumstances lower is better), but it also results in an artificially low yield (where higher is better). Still, Tulane wound up with about 1680 matriculants this year, while they really wanted about 1550. it is going to be a bit crowded. The fact is that Tulane chooses to ignore that silly game of stats, because their strategy is totally different than to worry about these percentages which, btw, only account for like 1.5% of the USNWR ranking. PA mentioned above is 25%. What is the strategy?</p>

<p>Let me say first that to further illustrate this “decline”, the strategy has resulted in the last 3 entering classes being by far the strongest academically in Tulane’s history. Highest average SAT scores ever (prior to this year Tulane was 30th in the nation in average SAT scores among research universities), and the highest number in the top 10% of their class ever. They achieved this because their strategy is to get students that initially have their sights set on Duke, Vandy, Wash U, Rice, and yes some of the Ivies to consider Tulane. I have written extensively on this elsewhere, but the bottom line is they 1) send a free and very easy app to students who are at the top of their class and scored well on the tests; 2) They provide an answer within weeks that usually includes a generous merit scholarship; 3) This causes the previously indifferent student to actually start considering Tulane, and many visit; 4) The campus is gorgeous and in a fantastic section of New Orleans surrounded by historic and picture book mansions. While 90% or whatever the number is of these students still choose the Dukes and Vandys of this world in the end, enough of them fall in love with Tulane to result in these fantastic increases in class quality that has been seen.</p>

<p>So let’s get to the crime issue. The crime stats are published for both the campus and the surrounding area. Again, these have been exhaustively analyzed by concerned parents and others and they are virtually identical to other city-based universities, better than many. I have no idea what Texan is talking about with the 5-10 armed robberies and rapes every night, but it is just a lie. If he means New Orleans overall, that is another kind of lie. What happens in the 9th ward or elsewhere has no impact on the Tulane students, just like what happens in East St. Louis (statistically often the most violent city in the country) has no impact on Wash U in St. Louis 10 miles away. Just ridiculous.</p>

<p>Alcohol is, of course, an issue at all colleges, but it is no worse at Tulane than elsewhere, and better than many rural campuses where there is little else to do. Tulane has a sizeable contingent of non-drinking and light-drinking students, but it is silly to even discuss this. Again, Texan’s statement is just a fabrication.</p>

<p>The statement about the professors being horrible is clearly laughable, I will just let him make a fool out of himself by letting that one stand on its own “merits”.</p>

<p>Finally, Tulane’s retention rate has risen nicely the last few years, being 92% last year. I am glad Texan has the ability to read minds, but I none-the-less doubt his statement about why they stay. Generally speaking Tulane finds that the biggest reason students left in the past was homesickness. Tulane has more students from over 500 miles away than any school in the country, and so maybe it is not surprising that happened. Recognizing that, Tulane took steps to help these students, and it seems to be working. The second biggest reason (or maybe third after money) was, in fact, too much partying and thus poor grades. While obviously a small minority of the students were leaving for this reason, Tulane has also addressed this issue in several ways.</p>

<p>It seems that 3-4 times a year a “Texan123” type pops up, most usually because they considered Tulane a safety and were shocked at getting rejected, so they immaturely feel better by trashing the school. It is a shame, but that’s life I guess. The facts speak for themselves.</p>