<p>what kind of SAT score would Brown find acceptable and might not help your application, but would definitely keep you in the running? 2100? Or higher?</p>
<p>Even a 1900 could keep you 'in the running' it's just a question of WHAT you have going for you. If you're selling yourself using stellar academics, then you may need a ~2200 to GET IN, but if you're a nationally ranked bkdjfkd, then your 1900 won't matter so much.</p>
<p>The Brown rep who visited my school agreed that Wesleyan and Brown have a lot of applicant overlap.</p>
<p>Brown and WESLEYAN? I thought wesleyan was like a massive hippie irkenstock-wearing school. Obviously nowhere as bad as Oberlin, but still</p>
<p>Brown is considered a massive hippie birkenstock-wearing school, too.</p>
<p>Wesleyan has a free-form sort of curriculum that is comparable to Brown's. Add in the very eclectic student body and you have a likely match.</p>
<p>I think it's easy to label any school with any sort of liberal reputation as a hippe birks-wearing school. But it is a bit more difficult to ascertain actually to what degree it is true.</p>
<p>I mean...."eclectic".....you could put a bunch of rugby players and then boarding school types and the science addict types and Classics scholars (i know a ton of those) together and they would be a "diverse" and "ecletic" student body.</p>
<p>I never really was familiar with the actual nature of the situation. I just personally can't imagine ANY ivy being hippie. It would be rather counterintuitive. It would be like Vandy having mostly unattractive girls. Maybe Columbia is awfully political, but really....i dunno</p>
<p>Well, Wesleyan isn't nearly as hippe birks-wearing as people say, just like Brown isn't. From talking to friends at Brown, and from being a Wes student, I think that the Wes student body might be slightly more alternative/hippy/etc, but not by much. My sense is that both schools are filled with student bodies that are generally liberal and quirky, but not all hippe birks-wearing. In fact, if you put together a bunch of (again, mainly liberal and a bit quirky in some way) rugby players and boarding school types and science addict types and Classics scholars and add some film majors and D&D players, you're definitely starting to get a pretty good picture of the Wes campus, and the sense I get is the same is true at Brown, with maybe slightly more people being less quirky. </p>
<p>I mean, Brown students, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But as someone who looked at a number of laid-back quirky type schools, Brown and Wes were two of the schools that seemed most alike to me (along with Vassar).</p>
<p>liberal and quirky rugby players.....haha.
you must play rugby sometime, weskid. it will be an eye-opening experience. think Harrow or Gordonstoun....except a lot less elite and a lot less intellectual</p>
<p>^you've never known a quirky jock? pity.</p>
<p>von_herrs: Well, I don't know about the male rugby team, but at Wes the female rugby team is A) A club sport (I think) that takes people who have never played sports before, and b) known for being a central facet of lesbian and trans life at Wes...so not your typical rugby team, I suppose ;)</p>
<p>And yes, we do have a number of jocks who are not quirky, though there are also many who are quirky in some way, and many more that are intellectual. Most are liberal, though. Maybe not left of left most of the time, but democrats, often (not to make it sounds like we ALL super liberal. There are some republicans and a fair number of libertarians on the campus). </p>
<p>Anyway, the point is, don't stereotype! Wes has a number of types of students, Wes jocks are often multifaceted (as are most Wes students), and that is exactly something I think many people who like Brown will probably find appealing.</p>
<p>Are Yale and Brown similar?</p>
<p>Yale and Brown are not really similar. Brown might have this hippie-type reputation, but apparently it is not really so. My D says that there are equally as many jocks, Greeks (mild frat/sorority scene, does not dictate social life, but does exist), nerds, preppies who wear heels and hose, and jackets and ties, international students, artsy types, and yes, hippies too. But it is extremely diverse in all ways, as far as she says. So go visit! Many schools have this same type of diversity. I am sure Wesleyan does too.</p>
<p>OK. Would you mind expanding on the differences between Brown and Yale?</p>
<p>^First, there is location. Brown puts a bit of distance between itself and downtown Providence. The neighborhoods (for the most part) around Brown are almost a series of set pieces out of the Colonial playbook. Yale OTOH, has bought up everything within sight of downtown New Haven; there's a bit more of an urban and urbane nuance as you walk around.</p>
<p>Then, there is the general academic stance of the two places. While people at both places pay lip service to the educations they recieve there, the fact is, no one really goes to the Ivy League for what they can learn in class. they can do that anywhere.</p>
<p>At Yale, one gets the sense that a good portion of the student body can barely wait to get their degrees. They have plans. They've had them since kindergarten; the future tennis pro, the starlet who has put her career on ice while she studies psychology. Add to that, the future I-bankers, the trust fund babies, the various political heirs. There are an awful lot of people walking around Yale checking their blackberries.</p>
<p>At Brown, one gets the feeling people have come there to chill. They are every bit as accomplished as their brethren at Yale, but have decided -- for whatever reasons -- that now is the time to experiment, not just with academics but with life itself. Not all of them, mind you, but, enough to set a certain tone. You can probably find both extremes at either place if you look for them. They're both big places.</p>
<p>Hmmm OK. So in general, Brown has the more laid-back and chill attitude, while Yale is full of busy-bodies who have their lives all charted out and think of Yale as just a stopping point for 4 years from where they can push on to whatever they'd like to do?</p>
<p>yea. 10char.</p>
<p>" but at Wes the female rugby team is A) A club sport (I think) that takes people who have never played sports before, and b) known for being a central facet of lesbian and trans life at Wes...so not your typical rugby team, I suppose "</p>
<p>HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHHA</p>
<p>wait...HAHAHHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAH</p>
<p>DUDE...about 75% of our team is gay or bi. we have 7 couples. 7! I think that's more people in couples than people who are straight. We often amuse ourselves by counting on our fingers the number of people who are straight. (we have over 40 people on the team). However, queer life is so huge here we aren't a central facet at all. And everyone is accepted, yay! </p>
<p>That said, a typical rugby team is by no means queer. I've played on college teams that certainly weren't before. I just thought that this was funny because at BROWN (and at many other schools) it definitely is. There's some measure of truth behind most stereotypes. </p>
<p>And ftr, we're practically varsity, have a lot of people who played sports (or rugby) before, and we are otherwise intense and awesome. But don't let that stop you from joining if you don't think of yourself as an athlete. Some of our best players learned to be athletes!! Oh yah and we're #1. Literally.</p>
<p>ClaySoul - do you have any comments regd. the differences between Brown and Yale?</p>
<p>I would really call Brown live and let live. Now, if you are extremely vocal about your religious beliefs, an outspoken conservative or, you have an ax to grind, you may be uncomfortable. If you just said I'm applying to Brown because it's an Ivy, it is a mistake. There is something really distinct about the culture. I encourage you to tour it. And if you do, I'd be glad to answer any questions.</p>
<p>More than almost any other school, Brown is a passport to indulge your passion for four years. Or, to find your passions. This often means struggles, setbacks and some measure of pain if you are honest with yourself as hopes materialize and plans are reconstructed and such. It isn't beanbag, if you are serious about it. There may well be an adjustment if you aren't from Groton et al.</p>
<p>The difference with Brown is that you are in an incredibly supportive environment <em>If</em> you seek help out. People are invested in your success in a way they aren't for my friends at other well-regarded schools. BUT, Again, it does matter to an extent on how honest you are about asking for help when you need it. Pragmatism never hurts either.</p>
<p>I'm totally not looking forward to leaving Brown I must say. Still, I am sure that for me there was no better school.</p>
<p>Yale: Residential Colleges, Curricular Requirements, You have to take I believe 4.5 courses a semester, New Haven, Better funding</p>
<p>Brown: Theme housing or dorms, No core, 30 or 32 class requirement to graduate, Any class S/NC, Providence,</p>