<p>are you confusing, OP, credit hours from ccs allowed by these undergraduate schools, and (medical/dental pre-reqs) credit hours from ccs allowed by the medical schools?</p>
<p>@jkeil911 no I understand that the 70 hr limit is for dental schools</p>
<p>@InigoMontoyaâ I know I will be slightly less competitive if I take some pre reqs at a cc, but wonât a high DAT score make up for that. Plus, I will only take those classes at a cc that are âweeding classesâ, I will take all my classes at the 4 year for junior and senior year.</p>
<p>@Mom2collegekids I am middle class but with college tuition being as high as it is even we need help. I am looking for a school with quality education for health sciences and around 35k with financial aid.</p>
<p>btw thanks for all ur responses about taking cc classes. Its been really helpful :)</p>
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<p>The above said it bestâŠwhen the dental schools are looking at apps and they see apps from UC students who took ALL their classes at their UCs, and then they see YOUR app where you tried to game the system by attending a UC, but taking the pre-reqs at a CCâŠWHO DO YOU think theyâre going to pick???</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids thank you for staying active on this discussion. but all Iâm doing is dodging a few Bâs or Câs. if I do well in the upper division classes wonât admissions see that I could still handle the coursework</p>
<p>OP, I just want to throw in a vote not to take Pitt off the table for possible OOS merit. In the last few years, several students from the small HS all my kids have attended got Honors scholarships to Pittâs Honorâs College - 4 year full tuition. One was a girl with a 32 ACT and decent transcript but not good enough to get into NHS at our school, another boy was NA semi-finalist and also not a top student but apparently wrote a compelling essay about diagnosing his own case of a neurological condition watching the Discovery Channel (and how he deals with the condition) - he was offered a 4 year full ride to the Honors College. Both these kids turned down schools like UâChicago & Swarthmore for the Honors Scholarships at Pitt. Pitt also has rolling admissions so you would at least know early; you have nothing to lose by getting that going now, while you research others options. </p>
<p>You know that with your stats you would be a competitive applicant at many privates that meet full need. Have you run the NPCs at some of these schools? Lots of folks donât know how high your income can be to get some FA at these schools. And you probably know that Rice does offer both need and merit based aid right? Rice seems like a good choice for you for lots of reasons.
Emory University Scholars Program awards merit aid to 300-400 finalists each year, which stacks on top of any needs based aid you are awarded. The largest of these Scholar awards are very substantial and would reduce your COA significantly. You have to apply by November 15th. <a href=âEmory University Scholar Programs | Emory University | Atlanta GAâ>Emory University Scholar Programs | Emory University | Atlanta GA;
<p>Whoops, I forgot to add that your idea for âdodging some Bâs and Câsâ is a terrible one and will backfire for sure. Medical schools care about your GPA not because of the number but because it is one way of showing them that you have mastered certain material and that you are capable of doing the rigorous work required at medical school. Taking classes at CC ( while enrolled at a 4 year college) indicates the opposite to them: not only are you possibly not capable but you are certainly not willing and you possibly havenât had the best foundational background in these subjects either. Anyone who is already shirking work in UG is going to get the cold shoulder from med schools. This is a guarantee.
But why are you so worried about getting Bâs and Câs? Is 4.25 your real GPA? If so, you have nothing to worry about with your UG grades. And if you donât develop the study habits before med school, thatâs bound to be a disaster. </p>
<p>Thereâs a consensus here that taking classes that are pre-reqs for our graduate program at CC is a terrible idea. Itâs going to show dental schools that you didnât think you were up to the challenge of taking those courses at your U, and that you look for the easy way out when things become difficult. They wonât care as much about the great grades you get in the upper-level courses, theyâll see that you skipped out on the âweederâ classes - which exist for a reason.</p>
<p>OP, I am just going to say the same thingâŠit is a VERY BAD idea to dodge your weeder classes at a 4 year uni and take them at a CC! It is game playing and every med and dental school will know what you were doing and ding your application, hard! You have been told this by everybody on this thread yet you still think you can somehow do it without repercussions. come back in 4 or 5 years and let us know how that worked out for you. :-< </p>
<p>First @nynightowlâ yes 4.25 is my real GPA, inherently Iâm just a very conservative person when it comes to grades. For example, my weighted GPA could actually be much higher itâs just that I took a less rigorous course load so it wouldnât be overwhelming. I regret not taking harder classes because I definitely underestimated myself. Iâd hate to do the same mistake again, but college is NOT easy!</p>
<p>I understand from many of your guys responses that taking pre reqs at a CC is a bad idea. Its just an idea someone said to me once and I really liked. Why wouldnât someone take the easiest route to their goal? Since obviously that route is a bad one, that brings me back to the another question, what are some schools that are well regarded and also some good pre-dental programs like USC?</p>
<p>What about UMinnesota Twin Cities? A friend said going to a school with a top dental school is a great route for undergrad research</p>
<p>My dentist went to our local school and he is doing just fine. And it may be the case with the other 2 dentists in his office. I do not think that they are even open for full 5 days / week. Successfull places are normally not open for full 5 days / week.</p>
<p>âwhat are some schools that are well regarded and also some good pre-dental programs like USC?â</p>
<p>as your focus is dentistry, may I suggest the following forum: </p>
<p><a href=âDental Communities (DDS and DMD) | Student Doctor Networkâ>http://â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â /categories/dental-forums-dds-dmd.55/</a></p>
<p>@jugulator20 thx thatâs a great source of info :)</p>
<p>and I would still like to know: is it advantageous to go to a school with its own dental school?</p>
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<p>So, youâre leaning with going with an idea that one person put forth over serious objections by many folks who really understand the admissions system better? </p>
<p>Good judgement is also important for those seeking med/dental school admissions. </p>
<p>I understand but this âsomeoneâ is a college counselor and has been for years. So I trusted them, but apparently according to all ur guys responses this is definitely a bad idea.</p>
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<p>Realize you will be competing for slots against students who didnât take the easy route. Medical/dental schools want high achievers and hard workers. So theyâre going to favor the kids who challenge themselves over the kids who take the easy route. What seems easy now may make your eventual goal harder, because it puts you in a weaker position against your peers applying for graduate school.</p>
<p>âsomeoneâ is a college counselor "
-These people are busy with too many kids. We did not listen to Dâs councelor, and she had only 33 kids in her class, he had not idea about the names of some programs thatD. was applying, forget the detials / requirements,âŠetc. It took me about 2 years to research, do not rely on anybody, do your own research. All you could hear from the counselor that if you are top dog, then apply to Ivy / Elite, and some kids do not care for this general type of advice at all, in fact, D. did not include a single one of the adviced on her list, she was not interested.</p>
<p>I would still like to know: is it advantageous to go to a school with its own dental school?</p>
<p>You will simply never get an answer to your question. A dental school app consists of a lot of parts (GPA, DAT, etc.) What weight, if any, is given any one part (e.g., going to a school with its own dental school) by any dental school is not published. Whether or not itâs important is a guess. If you want to guess that itâs a big deal then apply to colleges with their own dental school. My guess would be itâs not important. A strong app from any college will do the trick. Iâd also guess that just maybe if dental school is down to filling last couple of spots, then maybe itâs a tie breaker. Personally Iâd rather have an overall stronger application and be offered an acceptance upfront than pin my hopes on winning a tie breaker.</p>
<p>As this forum deals with premed, not dental, I would again encourage you to the above dental SDN forum. Try its search feature.</p>