Schools with huge scholarships -- but not elite, ivy, etc [3.4 HS GPA]

There is. But the same likely applies to the public universities in Florida, Texas, Utah, and Washington in the list (i.e. they may be more expensive for non-residents of their states). Tuskegee and North American are private, but North American apparently does not have regional accreditation (it also has only four majors). About 88% of Tuskegee’s frosh are Pell grant recipients.

Tuskegee does have huge scholarships, but the full ride requires a 3.7 HS GPA and 1300 SAT or 28 ACT.

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Thanks so much for this additional information. I was referring to an extra fee that goes above and beyond out-of-state tuition. But likely, the California publics would be good to avoid. And I didn’t know anything about North American, so I appreciate the insight.

@fiftyfifty1’s idea has lots of merit, as there are 6 different Minnesota publics on it where your D could get in-state costs, and then could do a year in California, Puerto Rico, Florida, Hawaii, Guam…or a number of other warm places with those same in-state prices.

U. of Montevallo is the Alabama public liberal arts colleges and also offers very generous scholarships, but is not a medium to large school. Without test scores you daughter would still be eligible for an out-of-state fee waiver and $2500 off in-state tuition. With modest test scores, there’s a lot of opportunity for money.

What extra fee? Out-of-state tuition is the extra fee. There is also lack of need-based financial aid for out-of-state students. But neither of these is unique to California publics – they are common features at most state universities. Out-of-state publics that may be affordable are typically due to merit scholarships they offer for students who greatly exceed the typical academic strength of students there.

It looks like from that page that Montevallo gives in-state tuition to out-of-state students with 3.0 GPA. That means $14k tuition and fees and $8-12k room and board for $22-26k total, but not including books, travel, and miscellaneous expenses. The full ride would require 3.5 GPA and 1360 SAT or 30 ACT; with the same test score but only a 3.0 GPA, it would be $9k off, for a remaining price of $13-17k.

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In addition, Minnesota has full tuition reciprocity with Wisconsin. The Wisconsin schools near the border such as Stout, Superior, and LaCrosse have experience making sure their graduates from MN have everything needed to be accredited for teaching in MN as well as Wisc.

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Perhaps @Gumbymom or @eyemgh can clarify, but I thought that there was an extra $6,000 or $8,000 or some amount of fee that was being assessed for out-of-state students beyond what the out-of-state tuition charges are.

OP’s D doesn’t have a standardized test score yet, so OP may get that score. The D also currently has a GPA of 3.4…a 3.5 is not out of the question. But OP did not ask about full rides…it was large scholarships. If the student receives a Pell Grant, that’s $6900 right there. Between a part-time/summer job and/or taking out federally subsidized loans, a school like Montevallo could work.

Tuition & fees for in-state students is $14k (and out-of-state students who have a 3.0 GPA qualify for the out-of-state fee waiver). If OP’s D doesn’t get a 3.5 but stays above a 3.0, these would be the scholarship levels on the in-state prices:
$2500 with no ACT or SAT => $11,500
$4500 with a 24-26 ACT or 1160-1250 SAT => $9,500
$6000 with a 27-29 ACT or 1260-1350 SAT => $8,000
$9000 with a 30-36 ACT or 1360-1600 SAT => $5,000

If OP manages to move the 3.4 to a 3.5 and has a 30ACT or higher or 1360 SAT then the student would be eligible to compete for the full ride.

If OP’s D got a 30 on the ACT, that would be $5,000 left in tuition and fees. When considering the $6900 from the Pell Grant, that leaves $1900 toward room & board (which ranges from $8800-12,000 depending on options chosen). If the OP’s D chooses a lower-end package, then that results in $6900 left in costs which, between part-time jobs, summer jobs, and federally subsidized loans, is well within reach.

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@ucbalumnus SLO’s opportunity fee for OOS/International students 2022 is $8,040 in addition to the Non-resident tuition fees.

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Thanks @Gumbymom for sharing your wealth of knowledge whenever called! Is San Luis Obispo the only California public that has this type of opportunity fee?

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Yes, SLO is the only CSU with the opportunity fee although all OOS/International students pay the Non-resident tuition fees.

Funds from the Cal Poly Opportunity Fee will be used to expand the university’s successful Cal Poly Scholars program, which provides students from California partner high schools with scholarships for up to five years, a technology package, proactive advising and other support. This fee will be assessed on all non-California-resident undergraduate students beginning in fall 2019. In addition, the fee will be cohort based and phased in over four years (2019-2022).

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And UW-Stevens Point is a great teacher’s university. It doesn’t get her to the Sun Belt, but it does have underground tunnels to a few buildings and offers a lot of indoor activities to get out of the winter cold (Wisconsin is a lot warmer than Minnesota because it has trees!). If she doesn’t like education, there are a lot of other majors as it is a university of about 8,000. There are scholarships available (some from local businesses). It is a really nice city with a lot of cultural bonuses - hiking/biking trails, a local symphony, some arts. The theater program at UWSP is top ranked (very selective) and provides opportunities for students and the community to watch plays, musicals, and comedy.

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@itsgettingreal21 – you raise a very good point that I already raised with her. You are likely to teach where you get the degree. Having said that–her commitment to elem ed or special ed is not solid. She may go another direction. She will likely have almost a year’s college credit through dual enrollment, she can get her degree in whatever (she likes lots of humanities and art) in three yrs and then go for a Masters in Instruction if she wants to do that.

I’ve been told by education profs here (MN, I live in a college town) that getting an education degree here makes sense because the licensure standards are incredibly strict. While she would have to get licensure, its usually easy to get because our licensure standards are strong.

Anyway, that is a concern about attending Univ of Southern Miss…and teachers pay in Mississippi is near the bottom of the barrel. In fact, it may be the bottom of the barrel.

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Thank you.

Thank you. I’ll show her this.

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I thought I was clear, but she will receive a Pell grant, and when we say our children need to pay their own way through college, that what it means. There is no extra to give. I could explain why we’re poor but I don’t think I need to say more than that.

As for MN-WI-Dakotas reciprocity, it’s true that exists. We tried that with our older daughter, who wanted a particular major at UW Milwaukee. Got in easily but the fin aid was literally nonexistant except for the Pell…and MN residents do not pay like in-state residents, just less than out of state residents. At least at Milwaukee. She didn’t enroll. I think their financial aid has been gutted through a previous state government.

Dakota schools are often very fiscally reasonable, but if she goes out of state, she’s adamant about being warm. :slight_smile:

For warm….I will again suggest she look at Flagler. It’s a hidden gem. Not big, but a beautiful small campus in St. Augustine. Modest price and they do give merit aid!

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Thank you to everyone for your thorough responses. I created this to get a better sense of schools off the radar that have significant scholarships for ACT 30+ students with a good but not great GPA. Thanks for providing that and I hope someone else finds it useful.

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As a practical matter, Pell ranges from a few hundred dollars to about $6k. Maximum student loan is $5.5k first year. Realistic student work expectations part time during the school year and summers are about $3-5k, so the college needs to have a net price (after scholarships and financial aid) of $8.5-10.5k + whatever the Pell grant amount is, or lower, to be affordable (obviously, lower is better).

This means that if she gets the largest Pell grant, the stretch price limit is about $16.5k. But if the Pell grant is smaller, then the stretch price limit becomes smaller. Obviously, lower is better, because the stretch price limit assumes finding enough work to earn the assumed work earnings, which sometimes does not happen.

University of North Alabama?

"At their June 9, 2014 meeting, the UNA Board of Trustees approved a resolution adopting a portion of the provisions of House Bill 424 pertaining to out of state students being eligible to pay the resident tuition rate for enrollment at the University of North Alabama. This provision allows out of state students receiving a scholarship award of $250 or more to be eligible for the resident tuition rate. "

A 3.0 - 3.5 UW GPA and 33+ ACT would give 10k+ housing. Same GPA but 30-32 ACT is 8k + housing. Almost a full ride it looks like for the 33+ ACT. Just would need to pay for food but the money here seems to exceed tuition unless I miscalculated.

A 3.51-3.70 UW GPA and 33+ ACT would give 11k+ housing. Same GPA but 30-32 ACT is 9k + housing.

There is a whole chart listed on the webpage I linked. It is in AL so it’s far from MN, but it’s warm.

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There is a thread in the FA section about OOS schools offering the same tuition to everyone. I think it is pinned at the top.

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How could I have missed the existence of this program in four-plus years of college research? Thanks for bringing this up!

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