science and humanities scholars program

<p>what is this???</p>

<p>did anyone else get in??</p>

<p>bumppppppppppppppppppppppppp</p>

<p>i got in it seems like a mix of both humanities and science courses...as the name suggests. It seems kinda like some kind of honors program o.O For the full detailed analysis go here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.cmu.edu/shs/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cmu.edu/shs/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>i did :-) yaaaa</p>

<p>My friend's sister said it's the most boring thing ever known to man and that I shouldn't do it. I don't think I'm going to do it if I go to Carnegie, as I already want to double major and don't want to overload myself</p>

<p>I got into it too...not quite sure what to make of it at the moment. I wanna do Physics and probably a minor, maybe more, in Economics. I always presumed that would be possible if I was simply enrolled in MCS. So I'm sure you guys have the same fundemental questions as me:
1. Will this make it easier (or harder) to do the combination I'm looking for?
2. How good/bad are the required courses that you have to take? (creative production and reflection class???....doesnt sound like my cup of tea)
3. SHS benefits (housing, chances for research, activities, special seminars, etc.), how good are they?
4. Is there a level of prestige to all this? I'm tempted to ask the hard questions of the contacts listed but if a somewhat unbiased view were to pop up here, that would be quite awesome!</p>

<ol>
<li>Easier</li>
<li>Not that hard</li>
<li>Pretty good. You get to live with other SHS people. Nothing too special though.</li>
<li>No.</li>
</ol>

<p>Honestly, here is the down-low. SHS lets you get priority in both MCS and HSS courses. If you want to double major in MCS/HSS then definitely take SHS as it lets you basically take courses in both without fear. SHS majors are just like every other school that has 1 major so it won't make a double major any harder. That's about it (oh and you get some fun activities during orientation and stuff). I</p>

<p>thanks acceptedalready. as for those in the same boat as me, will you enter shs if you go to cmu?</p>

<p>I actually just posted a question about this program in a different thread. Does everyone who is accepted to MCS or CHSS get an invitation to this program?</p>

<p>No. Only top students. You get priority in HSS/MCS courses.</p>

<p>I don't want to be too much of a bother or anything, but can you define what a top student is? Do they base this off of GPA/SAT scores, character/motivation (subjective factors), or both? It seems like a substantial handful of admittees on the boards have been accepted to the program, so it's difficult to tell just how difficult it is to be admitted to this program. By the way, can you list any advantages and disadvantages in joining the Scholars Program? I couldn't help but notice that there seems to be few students (maybe 50 or so per class) actually in the program.</p>

<p>GPA/SAT mostly. The "admittees" on this board are so far all top applicants. The program is not too exclusive but it is just letting you know that you can benefit from privileges if you come to Carnegie Mellon.</p>

<p>Disadvantages: None
Advantages: More fun at orientation. Living with other SHS people in the best dorm/most social. It looks good on your resume. A lot of people from SHS are allowed research opps, etc. You get priority in courses from MCS/HSS. </p>

<p>If you get accepted; definitely take the opportunity.</p>

<p>Thanks AcceptedAlready--</p>

<p>Do most people who matriculate to CMU (and are admitted to SHS) choose to be in SHS? The fraction of the class that chose to be in SHS seems to be very small.</p>

<p>P.S.-- I'm digressing now, but I was wondering if it was possible for me to apply for FA after my first semester at college (not specifically CMU but the majority of schools). Money isn't a terrible, terrible issue, but FA might be beneficial if I am granted any. Thanks</p>

<p>"Do most people who matriculate to CMU (and are admitted to SHS) choose to be in SHS? The fraction of the class that chose to be in SHS seems to be very small."</p>

<p>It depends on each year. I would say a majority do take the opportunity because on our floor there is around 50+ people and most of them are in SHS. If you don't get enough aid, you can always ask for more (you might get it since they obviously want you to come).</p>

<p>Also, are their offers based on interests as well? I noticed this scholars program is more interdisciplinary-type studies, so it would be important for an admittee to express that type of interest.</p>

<p>I, personally, had no idea about this until just a day ago, and I'm surprised they extended this offer to me. I would imagine most of the kids in this program have 4.0 GPAs and very solid SAT scores, but I'm not in that category.</p>

<p>I have no idea why they admitted you (I'm sure E.C.'s and essays have to do something with it) but i was under the main impression that it was offered to strong students (though there are kids in SHS on my floor right now who had 3.6's and 1400s or even 1300s on the old SAT).</p>

<p>I'm guessing it was because of my ECs if anything. Also, the top admittees from MCS and HSS are probably not necessarily comparable to top admittees at other schools within CMU, are they? I remember seeing a breakdown of average GPAs/SATs for the different schools at CMU, and I noticed MCS having the 3rd or 4th highest SAT range. Perhaps the caliber of students at MCS and HSS are just not as strong as the students at other schools and peer universities? Don't quote me on this--it's only my speculation.</p>

<p>Don't believe such things. Obviously SCS can be argued to have a bit of a "higher quality" of students than say, CFA. But comparing MCS vs CIT or most other schools is almost impossible. I've met geniuses in HSS and Tepper and I've met idiots in SCS (yea you know who you are). </p>

<p>Having an avg 10 points higher on the SAT is nothing and can change from year to year. You should really look at Carnegie Mellon as more of an University rather than a bunch of individual colleges. Racism is detrimental in contemporary society and in a way, so is prejudice and jealousy between schools at CMU. Such prejudice may lead you (like many Drama people) to be anti-social and hang out with only people from your own major. These people are usually the ones to complain about how "anti-social" and "mean" people are at CMU when it is themselves who are to blame. These are the people who "never have fun" and tell people "this college is so nerdy". </p>

<p>I know I MORE than answered your question but other people should take note of this too and acknowledge it. In short, it is an honor to be accepted into SHS (it is prestigious) and so is MCS/HSS and any other college inside Carnegie Mellon.</p>

<p>AcceptedAlready, you bring up some interesting points, but one of the biggest things that irks me about CMU is the social life. I have yet to visit the campus (and I may visit after receiving decisions from all my schools), but I have heard some discouraging things about CMU. One in particular is from a relative of mine who graduated only a few years ago (I don't know how long ago exactly, but he's in his 20's now). Although CMU has been changing dramatically (for the better) within the past few years, some of his experiences make me hesistate. He told me almost exactly what you posted (CMU being nerdy, anti-social, etc.), and although I can't necessarily say whether that is true or not, it makes me wonder nonetheless.</p>

<p>What can I do if I find myself in this situation? It seems like this prejudice about the school exists for a reason. Help!</p>