SCU vs USF

<p>Hi there!</p>

<pre><code> I have been admitted in both Leavey and University of San Francisco and I am certainly undecided. I am a junior international transfer student for Fall and it´s kind of difficult visit them both because I live in Europe... What should I attend? My mayor will be finance and I am gay if it helps. Hope it won´t be a problem...
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<p>Thank you for reading me and good luck to all!</p>

<p>Is cost a factor for you?</p>

<p>If not, or if USF is cheaper, then I would choose USF. Their MBA is considered the most diverse and best for international students, so I’m sure some of that can rub off on their undergrad classes. The campus amenities blows SCU away too. Both campuses have a totally different atmosphere, so if you haven’t had the chance to visit then it really comes down to wanting a) a bigger campus in a quieter, slower town feel environment (SCU) or b) a small campus is a very culturally diverse fast paced metro (USF). Do you plano n going back to your home country after school, or try to secure a US work visa. The name “San Francisco” may be more recognizable internationally than “Santa Clara”.</p>

<p>If SCU is cheaper, then, depending on how much cheaper, I would attend there.</p>

<p>SCU’s leavey is a much reputable program. The two are not in the same caliber academically IMHO.</p>

<p>Thank you for both answers, I really appreciate your opinions.
The cost is not a mayor problem; in fact, USF is less than 2k cheaper yearly than SCU, so it´s not a huge difference. Now, I would like to come back to Europe for work, but I do not know what I will prefer after living 3 years there so securing me a US work visa is not in my plans nowadays, but I would not like to close me that possibility in the future just in case. I am considering the reputation of the course, the possibility to get a good internship after graduation and the quantity of open-minded people that I will find there. Also, Is Santa Clara well connected by public transport or it is almost in the middle of nowhere?</p>

<pre><code> Again, thanks for reading me!
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Reputation locally or internationally - like are you concerned with employers in EU being familiar with these schools, or do they generally consider all US schools the same unless they’re Ivy? You want to find an internship after graduation in the US or EU?</p>

<p>If EU employers won’t be able to tell the difference from each school (and don’t care much that the school you attended was in a major multi-cultural city like SF), then considering how the price is no different to you, attend SCU. If you think your possible emplyers can identify with the fact of you going to school in SF and being exposed to that atmosphere is something they may like, then attend USF. Technically, you can travel to SF from Santa Clara in about 1-1 1/2 hours, but employers in EU may not know that you were able to do that by looking at “BSC from Santa Clara University” unless you’ve mentioned it in an interview - but you’d have to get them to get you to that round. Really, depending on your major, a lot of the business classes you take at each school will be very similar if not nearly identical. Both attract relevant faculty since one is located in a big tech area (SCU with Silicon Valley) and the other in the very business friendly SF - which is currently going through a start-up boom from small tech companies (which is also raising the rents there, so if you’re not planning on living in the dorms for USF, then this may be a factor as well). Therefore, I don’t think it would be too difficult coming from either school to find at least one internship if you’re a stellar student.</p>

<p>As far as open minded people go: there will be plenty of open minded people on either campus. However, it has been my experience that SCU has been more close-minded, or just generally less active in embracing new things or people. I recently spoke to USF’s Gay Straight Alliance and LGBTQ student representative and it seemed like USFs gay community played a bigger role overall in the school itself and the greater inner Richmond/SF area.</p>

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SC itself isn’t in the middle of nowhere. It’s the northern neighbor city to San Jose which has a population of 1 million. Valley Transit Authority, VTA, is the main form of public transit throughout the South Bay. This includes regular buses, light rail, express buses that take you to farther places like Santa Cruz, and then there’s also Cal Train which can take you to SF among other places. All these forms of transport are very close, if not right outside SCU’s campus.</p>

<p>As a note, USF gives a city public transit pass to every student for free (covered through regular student fees). I’m cannot recall SCU’s policy, but I think you have to pay an extra fee to get a student bus pass, but someone who attended more recently can explain that since I haven’t taken the time to look it up.</p>

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As a side note, IMO, $2,000/yr is a lot of money and USF has way better amenities for that cheaper price. If those amenities (food, gym, internet, dorms, rec rooms) aren’t a big deal to you, then you can disregard this.</p>

<p>I recently (a few months ago) attended USF’s Admitted Students Visit and wrote a review here:<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-san-francisco/1287556-usf-admitted-student-visit-2012-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-san-francisco/1287556-usf-admitted-student-visit-2012-a.html&lt;/a&gt; which even included attending one of their undergraduate business classes.</p>

<p>Hope all that helps.</p>