<p>Everyone who satisfies the minimum eligibility is admitted? Is that the way it works?</p>
<p>Thanks everyone, good advice. We did send an "official" appeal. We did what they requested we do. We sent it over-night mail. We called yesterday and were told that the appeal was denied. The written document is still in the mail (mailed on Friday they said). And, Slithey; I get what you are trying to get me to see, BUT that is the rule for those that "over-typo" their GPA. They might have my daughter where she can't move, but process still smells to me. I would be easy to change the question prior to include a another self calculator to calculate the 10-11 grade GPA. It's all there. But I'm sure this has come up before and they keep it this way for some reason, I'm guessing. Perhaps the written explanation will tell us more. We'll see. Thanks for everyones help.</p>
<p>Cardinal, they have their service area students (around SD) and then they have the rest of the world. I forgot all the numbers but I think they took about 3,000 from the service area and will take about 4,000 from the rest of the world. They had over 55,000 apps. After they admitted their service area students they took all the rest-of-the-world apps and took the top 4,000 Eligability Index scores (2,000 above and 2,000 below average). Realistically there are probably bigger numbers because they know not everyone will go the SDSU, but let's go with the raw numbers. Then they know from those applications the highest EI and the lowest EI. Like I said the minimum EI was 3,960 and the average was about 4,268, I believe. My daughter's EI was 4,054.</p>
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<p>I went on the SDSU website to check the info for calculating the EIS. It looks as though they re-calculate gpa's using only college prep classes, 1 year of art, and 1 year of an elective. Are you using the correct gpa when calculating her EIS? Take out the fluff classes, add in the college prep classes, 1 art/music, and 1 elective. Does it still come out the same?</p>
<p>So even if your daughter had calculated her GPA correctly, she would have just squeaked in.</p>
<p>I have some sympathy for your daughter's plight, but to me getting into SDSU just doesn't seem worth all the expense, hassle, and angst of lawyers and lawsuits.</p>
<p>I'd say tell her to go to the next best school and get good grades. And if after one year she hasn't fallen in love to with her new school, transfer to SDSU.</p>
<p>Smarter-did your D apply to LB or Cal Poly-SLO? LB has one of the best kinesiology depts in the state! Freshman are admitted as a pre-major anyway and it is a very competetive field so the first two years are very important no matter where you go to school.</p>
<p>Any1can,
Good advice. She has applied to LB, has not heard. Problem with LB is they are super crowded. They have 1,000 students in Kinesiology and if you want to get into the Phys. Therapy concentration you must first take 6 specific classes and do well, the apply for the PT concentration and be selected. They choose 40 students per year. Most probably down a bit this year and next for budget purposes. But we'll see.
Regards to SLO; she just found out she was rejected. I called to get the skinny on FTF and Transfers: 2,500 FTF applications; they took 65 (95% rejected), 224 transfer apps; they took 17 (93 % rejected). Average GPA of those admitted; 4.05, average SAT score; 1268. They took 150 FTF/transfers the last two years. Thanks for the info.</p>
<p>smart:</p>
<p>have you checked with your HS GC yet? Our GC knows well a couple of Cal State admissions deans (but not SD) and has gotten kids in (with a glowing reference letter) who were otherwise ineligible.</p>
<p>Perhaps your GC personally knows the adcom in SD?</p>
<p>I know this must be incredibly frustrating for your family. As you know, many of the Cal States were directed to give priority admissions to area of service applicants this year due to budget constraints. Obviously, if SDSU still had room, they would admit your daughter. They want the best students they can get, but they are over crowded. (One friend's daughter was rejected last year with a 4.0 GPA!) It could just be that during the time she was rejected and when you brought the mistake to their attention, that the spots were offered to other applicants. If they rescinded another applicant to admit your daughter, a student who had not erred on the application would suffer the consequences. Perhaps you can ask them to admit her provisionally for spring, depending on how much room they have at that time? Looks like the mistake was your daughter's, and though losing her spot is a harsh consequence, I do not see how you can prove the university was liable for acting in goof faith on information your daughter provided. It is very difficult to obtain remedies in cases involving college admissions. Sometimes lawsuits can cast a very negative light on the victims life and it can be all consuming. I do not know if that will make your daughter's life easier next fall. Write to the SDSU President with an offer to meet SDSU halfway to find a solution and maybe they can come up with a way to help your daughter. This sad situation is one example of how the state budget crisis is having a very real impact on people's lives and I am sorry for your family. Something will work out for your daughter. Senior year is an emotional time. Take a deep breath and try to calmly pursue another college admission for her. Good luck.</p>
<p>If your DD really has her heart set on SDSU, go to the local community college for the first couple of years and then transfer. As I understand the rules, the state colleges set aside quota for cc transfers and not for transfers from other state colleges.</p>
<p>Have you thought about going out of state. Some programs are so impacted in CA schools, it's darn near impossible to get in without spending years spinning your wheels. </p>
<p>We had a friend whose D wanted to become an RN, but you had to take certain number of classes before you could even apply to the program and then there was a wait to get into the program. She happened to be visiting Oklahoma, checked into the RN program at the state school there and there would have been no problem with starting the next semester.</p>
<p>Some of the great programs are very impacted at the state school level.</p>
<p>For whatever reason, even as the world has changed considerably, most CA kids seem as unlikely to leave CA for college as they were 30 years ago when I did. No one could imagine why I would head East when the 'best schools in the world' were in my backyard. And the ones stretching for something different apply to Stanford!</p>
<p>As my parents didn't make much back then, I went to Penn for less than the cost of a UC. My nephew, one of the few to leave CA from his graduating class a few years ago, went to a SUNY LAC, not an option in CA state schools, for less than a UC would have cost.</p>
<p>Yet families continue to fight to get their kids into these overcrowded schools in crisis. And other than the parties, I've had a hard time finding kids who enjoy these schools. Life becomes a bureaucratic battle to get the classes you need to graduate and you hardly ever meet a prof outside of class. So I continue to scratch my head....</p>
<p>hmom5, so many different factors in determining who goes out of state and who doesn't. We see many students here on CC who are staying in their own general geographic region, within a few hours drive of home. In California, of course that doesn't get you to many different states. </p>
<p>People might know and accept that there are wonderful schools elsewhere, but it's a long way away and/or it's cold and they just aren't comfortable going off by themselves yet. We live in SoCal, and I'm always a little disappointed when I hear about kids from my children's schools and social circles going to UCLA. I do think they'd be better off stretching to go elsewhere, trying something different, and these kids have often applied and been accepted to schools on other coasts. Yet these kids are loving their college experiences, in the classroom and out. Things may of course change in the next few years as budget cuts make themselves felt, but for now they're happy. </p>
<p>That said, it's pretty hard to burst out of the CA bubble culture. Most of the teachers and counselors in CA went to college in....CA. Same for parents and other adults that a typical kid will run into. And for so so long CSUs and UCs truly were a bargain. They still are in many cases. I'm thinking of tradeoffs, too. A kid who is envisioning going to SDSU, you give them the idea of going to upstate NY for school--big, big, big change in expectations. It'll be interesting to see if financial pressure pushes more people to explore OOS options, and interesting to see if financial pressures in other states restrict the number of CA kids who could flow to OOS schools.</p>
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Neither of my kids had/(have) issues getting classes at UCLA and UCSD but maybe it depends on one's major. They've both met profs outside of class - all it usually takes is some initiative to do so. And there are plenty of kids who actually seem to like the schools okay - even non-partiers.</p>
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Neither of my kids had/(have) issues getting classes at UCLA and UCSD but maybe it depends on one's major. They've both met profs outside of class - all it usually takes is some initiative to do so. And there are plenty of kids who actually seem to like the schools okay - even non-partiers.
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Ditto here. My son was never once shut out of a class he wanted. He also had a multitude of opportunities to associate with profs outside of class, as well as being invited to do research/intern/summer job for 3 different profs. Plus they offered him a full ride fellowship for grad school. All of this on top of an affordable public university tuition which means he doesn't have to pay back any student loans.</p>
<p>When did your kids graduate? In the last 6 months I spent a lot of time talkig to students on UC campuses including the 2 your kid's attended. Not getting into classes was the number one complaint I heard over and over. And I now from my niece at SDSU it's a huge problem.</p>
<p>hmom5, I just don't see the problem the way you see it.</p>
<p>Sometimes a student can't get a class. But almost every single student can graduate in 4 years if they want to at a UC. For one thing, the UCs are generous with AP credits.</p>
<p>The kids I know are graduating in 4 years.</p>
<p>SDSU might be a different story. I have also been told by students that they might take more than 4 years to graduate at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. I also know a few that have graduated in 4 years there.</p>
<p>Which UCs are having the problems?</p>
<p>I know kids at Berkeley, UCLA, UCD, and UCSB that have graduated in the last few years and they graduated in 4 years.</p>
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My UCSD one graduated in June. My UCLA one is still there.</p>
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It's possible the major might be a factor. My Ds were engineering but of course, they also take plenty of GEs together with L&S students as well. It's also possible that some students, if they don't get into the class that starts after noon but before 3pm and are therefore stuck with the 9am class, will complain about 'not getting classes'. I'm sure that some don't always get the class they want when they want it though.</p>
<p>There are actually plenty of students who can graduate in 3 years for some of the humanities majors carrying a lot of AP credits and who are willing to carry a full course load rather than a very light one.</p>
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I've heard about issues with SDSU in the past due to its popularity such that a few years ago they started limiting the admits more.</p>
<p>Like I said in earlier post, my D has had no problems getting classes at SDSU. She is just a little flexible with her schedule and she is a soph which is the most difficult year as they register last. Maybe th kids having problems are in an over crowded major or are not being flexible enough with their schedules. There are classes M-F, 8 to 10 at night::)</p>