SEAS and CC

<p>Ok, so i know this has probably been asked before, but i was just wondering, is the Fu Engineering School (SEAS) a completley different part from Columbia College and Barnard? But is it still considered part of Columbia University? Is housing and all that the same for all schools under CU? How does the whole system work?</p>

<p>SEAS and CC are both parts of Columbia University. Barnard is an affiliated institution. House is the same for CC and SEAS students (I believe).</p>

<p>SEAS and CC basically are separate academic schools, with different core course requirements (fair amount of overlap), separate applicant pools, and separate majors. Otherwise SEAS and CC students live together, hang out, compete for the same jobs, are part of the same clubs etc etc. if you know anything about CAS and SEAS at UPenn or any other school, the relationship is identical. Both considered a single unit of the Columbia University undergrads, but with those separations I listed above.</p>

<p>Barnard is not part of Columbia</p>

<p>Wow, you just proved you can’t read, zzgirl. Read the second sentence of post # 2.</p>

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I am not ■■■■■■■■! I am Boxxy you see!!!</p>

<p>seas and cc are the two undergraduate schools of Columbia university.</p>

<p>Barnard College is an affiliated all girls college. and The College of General Studies is undergraduate school for “non-traditional” students.</p>

<p>Basically, SEAS and CC are the two non-disputed undergraduate schools of Columbia University. G.S. and Barnard colleges are considered by some to be the same level as seas and cc and by others as not comparable to seas and cc.</p>

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<p>I was just wondering why you didn’t do a search if you KNOW it’s probably been asked before.</p>

<p>I did search but i couldnt find it anywhere, but it seemed like an obvious quesiton that i wanted to clear up, anyways thank you guys</p>

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<p>I didn’t get the quote so I searched it. I just used 20 minutes of my life watching what should be named to the “best things the internet has created” list. Thank you.</p>

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Amen
10char</p>

<p>Here is the list of Official Columbia University undergraduate schools…</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/abstract/degrees%20and%20certificates%20awarded%202007-2008.htm[/url]”>http://www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/abstract/degrees%20and%20certificates%20awarded%202007-2008.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>zzgirl, not to ■■■■■ you too much, but is your problem simply that you worry it might be better to be in Barnard than Harvard extension? When registering for classes, it’s <em>very</em> easy to enroll in the Barnard classes as a CC/GS/SEAS student and easy for Barnard to enroll in the other classes as well. In fact, Barnard psychology courses fulfill different core requirements than Columbia courses, and can actually complement each other very well.</p>

<p>P.S. have a look at the Barnard diploma at <a href=“http://www.wikicu.com/images/thumb/a/a3/BCdiploma2005.jpg/800px-BCdiploma2005.jpg[/url]”>http://www.wikicu.com/images/thumb/a/a3/BCdiploma2005.jpg/800px-BCdiploma2005.jpg&lt;/a&gt; Pretty nice if you ask me, huh zzgirl? Oh right, what’s that CVRATORES VNIVERSITATIS COLVMBIAE bit? Regents of Columbia University maybe, who knows!</p>

<p>Again, seriously, the relation is a little complicated. There’s more at [About</a> Barnard College](<a href=“http://www.barnard.edu/about/columbia.html]About”>http://www.barnard.edu/about/columbia.html)</p>

<p>The folloging shows relationship between CC/SEAS
[Academic</a> Life | Columbia University Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/university/academic]Academic”>http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/university/academic)
[Welcome</a> to Columbia Student Affairs](<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/]Welcome”>http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/)</p>

<p>Lion link is for CC/SEAS only
<a href=“https://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/lionlink/[/url]”>https://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/lionlink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>successful ■■■■■ is successful.</p>

<p>After months of denigrating Barnard College on that page of College Confidential, we now see zzgirl continiuing her tirade here as an aside to an otherwise useful discussion of the differences between CC and SEAS. Since she is so obviously obsessed with maintaining the prestige of her (presumed) Columbia degree, she might find it more fruitful to discuss instead the impact of the SEAS “guaranteed admission” for transfer students under the 3+2 combined plan. Personally, I think this is a magnificent program and should be lauded, but the fact is that SEAS has an arrangement with more than 100 non-engineering colleges (including academic luminaries such as Nebraska Wesleyan University and SUNY/Fredonia) by which any student who takes the prescribed curriculum and achieves a 3.0 GPA is “guaranteed” transfer admission to SEAS, where the student would complete 2 years of study and earn a Columbia engineering degree. Here’s a link to the SEAS website describing the program and its requirements:</p>

<p>[Admission</a> and Financial Aid Information for the Combined Plan Program | Columbia University Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/engineering/combined/admissions.php]Admission”>http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/engineering/combined/admissions.php)</p>

<p>Though these standards are indisputably the laxest entry requirements into any Columbia undergraduate program (and perhaps for any Ivy League undergraduate program, period), I doubt anyone seriously questions the qualifications of those who join SEAS after 3 years of B-average undergraduate study at institutions perceived to be of lesser reputation. That’s because Columbia is the sort of place that generally welcomes diversity, opportunity and inclusiveness. Except, of course, for those who – like zzgirl – somehow feel threatened by the presence of Barnard students (though they comprise about 30% of the total undergrad population). There’s a backstory lurking somewhere, I suspect.</p>

<p>For those choosing between CC and SEAS for first year admission, the existence of the 3+2 transfer program at SEAS should have no bearing whatsoever – they’re both excellent schools recognized as among the best in the nation (if not the world). But similarly, the participation of Barnard students (themselves the product of a highly selective admissions process, though admittedly not as statistically difficult as freshman admissions to CC or SEAS) as part of the overall Columbia community should pose no threat to Columbia students’ self esteem. </p>

<p>Back to the point of this discussion thread, pick among CC and SEAS based on the major you’re looking for, not on silly things like the diploma (CC’s in Latin, SEAS’s in English) or any perception that SEAS is somehow “lesser” than CC – it emphatically isn’t.</p>

<p>Just throwing this out there for any incoming freshmen: the girls that are vehemently anti-Barnard, like zzgirl above, tend to sleep around a lot (maybe to compensate for low self-worth?).</p>

<p>Any other alums agree or disagree?</p>

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<p>Haha. (10 char)</p>

<p>Skraylor is on the money, one of the reasons a columbia girl would hate barnard, is because they infringe on columbia boys. If having a man to sleep with is the only thing that completes someone, they be pretty pssed at barnard. </p>

<p>Some people dislike barnard because it’s a minor drain on resources and because some of the insecure barnard girls pretend they study in columbia college, none of this warrants the hate that you (seldom) encounter. zzgirl, if you weigh less than me, I’ll gladly sleep with you. Oh btw, do you even go to Columbia?</p>

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dude, don’t let your mouth (or fingers) write checks that your eyes or brain won’t let you cash.</p>