Second bachelor's degree in EE or CE

<p>I just graduated from BS in Computer Information System in Criminal Justice</p>

<p>looking to go back to school because my job pay for it.
My job will pay for 100% of Undergraduate or 1 Class/semester for Graduate</p>

<p>I'm thinking of doing Electrical Engineering or Computer Engineering. I always wanted to do this Major since i started college but did not get accepted to the school i wanted to go to.</p>

<p>My BS gpa is 2.5 with 2.8 GPA in my major.
Currently Employed within my field (Tech Support)
5 years of IT job experience with 3 difference company </p>

<p>I know my GPA is not good enough for Graduate school.</p>

<p>Is Second Bachelor worth it? or there is a chance for me to get into graduate school for computer science or EE or CE?</p>

<p>Any suggestion?</p>

<p>sorry guys my mind is jumping all over the place right now.</p>

<p>AFAIK, most schools will not accept students for a second bachelor’s degree. Are you planning to attend classes part time while working full time? What geographic area are you in, what school(s) are you targetting for admittance if you went for a graduate degree?</p>

<p>Can you go and take selected undergrad courses - not aiming for a degree - but doing preparatory course that you might need for admittance to an MSEE or ECE program? I’m not sure if this is feasible, but perhaps doing really well in such courses, establishing relationships with a prof or two, could bolster your chances for admittance to a graduate program?</p>

<p>Congratulations on having a job in your field immediately after graduation and for being fortunate to work for one of the companies that will cover the cost of further study.</p>

<p>It sounds like you’re in for a long, painful uphill battle.
Are you sure you really need the 2nd degree- just because your employer will pay for it?</p>

<p>I have no doubt that you can do it if you put your mind to it, but is it really something you need?</p>

<p>I don’t need the second degree. But Engineering is what I’m very interest in and want to take advantage of free education from my employer.</p>

<p>I’m thinking of applying to CUNY - City College and they do accept second bachelor.</p>

<p>With second Bachelor do I have to take Core Class all over again? like English, history and etc?</p>

<p>[Office</a> of Undergraduate Affairs::Transfer & Second Degree](<a href=“http://www1.ccny.cuny.edu/prospective/gsoe/OUA/admissions_transfer.cfm]Office”>http://www1.ccny.cuny.edu/prospective/gsoe/OUA/admissions_transfer.cfm)</p>

<p>Here it says “Alone or in consultation with others, the GSOE’s associate dean for undergraduate affairs will develop a list of all the course requirements (called a “contract”) for each second-degree student. This is the program you must follow to obtain your degree.” I don’t know if that means you don’t have to take core courses.</p>

<p>I’m in a similar boat. I’m about to graduate with a Degree in Chemistry and a minor in Math. I’m thinking about getting a second B.S in Chemical Engineering at CCNY. I have a question for OP, how did you ask your employer to pay for your second degree, when they don’t even need? Did you just go ask them and they approved?</p>

<p>xcluziveazn are you from John Jay? LOL That major sounds like you are from John Jay.
If they are willing to pay for it, what about graduate program?
I think that’s even better if they are willing to pay for that, instead.</p>

<p>Since you have some backgrounds in programming, you probably have some minimal ability to preform well. There will be pre-requisites to make up, however.</p>

<p>@jwxie - uhhhh yes :D</p>

<p>@yg7s7 - Education tuition waiver is part of the benefit.</p>

<p>I guess I have to go talk to the Dean [scary] about courses and which route is to take.</p>

<p>Tuition reimbursement was a popular benefit in the 1980s and 1990s as it resulted in better educated employees, came with a nice tax benefit for the company and employees had better job satisfaction. In the 1990s, there were legislative battles over the tax benefit. Back in the 1980s and early 1990s, the company I worked for would pay for any undergraduate courses in a degree program. Then in the mid-1990s, there was a tax change or clarification and reimbursements were tightened to only those related to your work. The earlier policy meant that you could get your entire Bachelors paid for by your company and subsidized by taxpayers (in general, a good return on investment by taxpayers).</p>

<p>BTW, I think that you should go for an MSCS - you would have to take a few prereqs and this might be a good place to show that you’re a much better student now than your old GPA would indicate. Working in the field has a way of adding maturity to a person.</p>

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<p>Isn’t this supposed to be a pretty easy major? Why is your gpa so low?</p>

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<p>My first reaction to that was “why so mean? Why ask a question like that?” Then I realized it’s the most important question the OP needs to ask himself: is he up to the challenge of multivariable calc, diffy q’s, circuit theory, electricity and magnetism, linear algebra, semiconductor physics, quantum physics (yes, it comes up in EE), etc. We don’t know what you studied for your first bachelor’s and how you did on it.</p>

<p>Also, did you mean civil engineering or computer engineering by “CE”? “CE” almost always means civil engineering, say “CompE” for computer engineering.</p>

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<p>A tax cut tax credit is not necessarily a subsidy (it sometimes is, sometimes isn’t, depends on a variety of factors, in the same way that “eating fat” is not necessarily unhealthy for you), ANYWAY I couldn’t let your comment pass that subsidizing higher education is a good return on investment for tax-payers.</p>

<p>How are you, or any third-party observer, qualified to tell a stranger what a good return on his investments are when the investments are being made by government bureaucrats (rather than the person in question)? If my tax money is subsidizing somebody’s gender studies degree, I do not consider that a good return on investment. If an employee is an engineer and gets a tax-payer subsidized masters degree in their field, while their productivity marginally improves, I simply have no way of knowing whether the extra productivity is of greater benefit than the cost of the degree. If the extra productivity were of a benefit to the company (and hence the economy), and that benefit exceeded the cost of getting the degree, then the company would pay for the degree itself, no subsidy needed (this is all other things being equal, i.e. that there isn’t an even better investment to be made with that same money).</p>

<p>Only the company and the employee are in a position to have the requisite knowledge about whether this transaction is a net good return on investment or a net bad return on investment.</p>

<p>What about the cost to the tax-payer in the rising cost of higher education? If the government subsidizes a degree, then the full cost of obtaining that degree is not passed on to the person actually getting it. This means more people would get degrees than would otherwise get them. Schools, knowing they are guaranteed customers (I mean students) can feel free to charge even higher for tuition and books and fees, which gives them the freedom to waste money on showy and personal projects and intellectual dead-end departments (whiteness studies, anybody?), pad the administrative payrolls, make higher education expensive for those who actually want a degree and will pay for it themselves. This is a huge part of the reason why higher education prices outpace inflation. You can have a situation where the net output is <em>worth less</em> than the value of the inputs. Not a good return.</p>

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<p>That’s what I was getting at. If he struggled with that degree then he might want to consider the rigor of the EE/CmpE degree if he’s given the opportunity to study it.</p>

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<p>Your tax money is subsidizing somebody’s gender studies degree.</p>

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<p>You may very well ask why we bother with subsidizing education
at all then.</p>

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<p>Not even. It is a benefit and usually only required manager’s
approval. It may provide a long-term benefit or a short-term
benefit. You never know when that womens studies course might
come in handy in a business setting.</p>

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<p>There were limits on tuition reimbursements.</p>