<p>From what I have read, there are no such thing at WUSTL. But maybe I just haven't heard of them because they're soooo secret...;)</p>
<p>do you guys know of any?</p>
<p>I haven't heard of any at all. I'm thinking they're not quite WashU's style? At least I hope not.</p>
<p>Most definitely not the WashU way.</p>
<p>it really isn't the wash u way to have secret societies. groups that have the perception of elitism don't do very well at wash u.</p>
<p>sophomore, junior, and senior classes each have two honoraries. they are very selective... you apply and interview to be in them and get initiatied, but i wouldn't say they are secret socities because they publicize their member list and the groups have open events.</p>
<p>example, Thurtene (one of the junior honoraries) puts on the nation's oldest and largest student run carnival in front of campus each Spring... it has carnival rides, food booths, student groups sell merchandise and make food, and Fraterntities and Sororities build elaborate facades and sets and perform plays/skits that they write. basically every student goes to Thurtene or works at it for their student groups, as do thousands of members of the surrounding st louis community.</p>
<p>haha yeah, i was just wondering...i wouldnt really want to be in one. if i did, i wouldve chosen another school, i guess.</p>
<p>and yesss jcool i am sooo excited about the carnival! and the million other fun events washu has :) :) :)</p>
<p>ooh and this has nothing to do with anything...but does anyone know if I needed to take the calc placement exam in may (if i wanted to take it) or if that's just the date for engineering students?</p>
<p>you should just take the calc exam before you register for classes... anyway, it's a little late to take it in may, i'm afraid, if you check your calendar</p>
<p>if you're doing the freshman summer program, an artsci weekend, or something like that you'll want to take it before you arrive there to schedule classes</p>
<p>i went ahead and took the calc exam a couple days ago, 'cause i'll probably forget a lot of calculus over the summer : ) ... results said i'm ready for calculus III, but i'll probably just take calc II, i'd rather get a good foundation as i'm a physics major...</p>
<p>I took the calc test too, it wasn't even that hard, even though we didn't go over some things in class. I wonder what score you actually need to pass.</p>
<p>14/30 in calc III was enough for me : \
i think it's basically up to you and your adviser to discuss your score at some point later though, it's not a hard, fast rule.</p>
<p>Nice topic.</p>
<p>There are at least two "secret" societies on campus. They recruit members based on their contributions to the WU community. A lot of the primary "leaders" on campus have probably been recruited or are members.</p>
<p>I've heard their names, and it doesn't seem to be the "Skull and Bones" type. Rather, I think they must have been created somewhat recently (last 20-30 years) and don't take themselves too seriously. It's cool to have them around and I wish I knew what they did.</p>
<p>Ask around - especially to student leaders of Greek Life / Student Union. If someone laughs uncomfortably, you're probably on the right track.</p>
<p>Well, it would seem that about a century ago there was</a> at least one:</p>
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In 1879 Beta's charter was withdrawn due to opposition from Chancellor Hadley and his administration. During this time, the administration was very anti-Greek, and several other chapters on campus suffered the same fate as Beta. The fraternity was revived again in June 1900, with the initiation of members of a local secret society called the Hatchet Club. Gurdon G. Black was a leading member of this society and later served a prestigious term of service in the US Army during World War I, including action at the Battle of the Argonne. William Julius Wessler, editor of Student Life in 1899, was the leading force behind the re-chartering of Beta Theta Pi at Washington University. Cumulatively, we had been at Washington University longer than any other fraternity or sorority.
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<p>But it seems that said group became SAM:</p>
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The Hatchet Club may have split into the group that would later become Sigma Alpha Mu (SAM). Brothers may find this connection to SAM quite ironic, as our chapters would cross paths again in the late 1990s. The University yearbook, The Hatchet, was the offspring of this group and the yearbook club kept the name "Hatchet Society" and continued in that fashion long after Beta split from it. The Alpha Iota coat of arms and the Wash U. SAM coat of arms both bare hatchets.
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<p>Of course, this off-shoot fraternity was later booted from campus:</p>
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In April 1999, Beta would again cross paths with Hatchet-offshoot Sigma Alpha Mu. SAM was removed from campus for hazing violations, and Alpha Iota was offered their house. The chapter accepted, heralding Beta Theta Pi's return to Fraternity Row.
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<p>And of course, as I'm sure you realize, Thurtene started as one too:</p>
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Thurtene was formed in 1904 as a secret society of men chosen for their leadership, character, and participation in campus activities. Membership varied in the early years from 4 to 14, then finally settled into a consistent 13. Thurtene found its purpose in 1935 when it was asked to rescue the floundering student circus from the senior honorary Pralma, which had merged with another group. Thurtene rose to the occasion and steadily improved the carnival and itself, while weathering the storms of World War II, the turbulent 1960s, the entrance of women, and the threat of carnival cancellation.
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<p>Though that too has changed, and is fairly transparent as I understant it.</p>
<p>Other than that, I have yet to come across any mention of secret societies at WUSTL.</p>
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Other than that, I have yet to come across any mention of secret societies at WUSTL.
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Of course not - they wouldn't be secret then, would they?</p>
<p>Sorry, I had to :P</p>
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Of course not - they wouldn't be secret then, would they?</p>
<p>Sorry, I had to :P
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<p>But secret societies tend to earn reputations on campus that then travel elsewhere. And I'm not just speaking of Skull and Bones. Take a look at the Seven Society at UVa, the Owls at Penn, or Sphynx at Dartmouth.</p>
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But secret societies tend to earn reputations on campus that then travel elsewhere. And I'm not just speaking of Skull and Bones. Take a look at the Seven Society at UVa, the Owls at Penn, or Sphynx at Dartmouth.
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I know lol, I was jk. That sentence just sounded like such a contradiction when taken out of context. I think the "secret" part of the secret societies refers more to the identities of their members.</p>
<p>Good to see Wash U has some standards. Secret societies take themselves a little too seriously for me.</p>