<p>No, this is the internet, I can be who I want and I can troll how I want.</p>
<p>I have a girlfriend. She's not a cheerleader, but I still have a girlfriend.</p>
<p>Since I've already posted on this forum quite extensively, I can compromise my account for pretending to be openly chauvinistic.</p>
<p>"I don't think a bunch of college/grade obsessed kids are going to tell you what a girl really wants."- AeroEngineer3141</p>
<p>And this is why being a judgmental person, when you yourself fit into what you insinuated, has its back drafts. </p>
<p>And just so you know, i was skimming what you posted before... and came across that fact that you are probably one of those people who deny themselves to be in this category, but this quote proves it other wise,</p>
<p>"3 hrs per night, and that's with the breaks in between for random stuff. I do simple workbook-type homework in the morning before school starts."- AeroEngineer3141</p>
<p>Not that I am saying that is a bad thing... but you should think about why I said that post in the first place...</p>
<p>Clearly you having more posts within a shorter time period, than me says something as well. By us using this website we both fall into your judgmental opinion. </p>
<p>So, you might want to clear some things out first before you type it. I was only trying to scratch your funny bone... not turn it into an insult battle, with the idea "battle of the "wits" through an online forum...</p>
<p>And to be honest...</p>
<p>your responses are very subjective... so in theory you have no proof that you are smart... nor will i care to find this out... I'm just going to assume you are just so it is a level playing field...</p>
<p>I would like to continue this battle of the "intellects" but it seems you have come unarmed...</p>
<p>Poseur, sorry =]. I noticed that you were a girl but I do know girls who have your opinions on what a woman's role is. (Ok, only one girl. But still lol.) Anyways, I share your opinion that women need to be EQUAL and not above men.</p>
<p>Multiple orgasms. - Men can have those too. Just search for all those guides on google.</p>
<p>and a male chauvinist is not much different than a feminist who argue that women should be favored in divorce court, deny domestic violence against men, deny that most rape charges are false, advocate for unequal spending when it comes to male and female specific diseases, argue for a male only draft, support male genital mutilation, advocate for a man tax, advocate for urinals to be removed because peeing standing up is apparently degrading to women, argue for the right of women to not pay alimony, advocate for that shirts advocating violence against girls are wrong but advocate violence against boys are okay, justify how men are portrayed are stupid in the media is ok, believe women have the right to change their mind about whether sex is consensual mid act , deny father's right and male reproductive rights. Feminists are worse.</p>
<p>romanigpsyeyes and poseur you two crack me up. equal would mean you would be asking men out and paying for dates which I haven't seen despite claims from women that they are equal.</p>
<p>I agree, feminists are worse than chauvanists.</p>
<p>We might as well start up a chauvanist club for every feminist organization.</p>
<p>I doubt that feminists would support the things collegebond78 mentioned above. The definition of feminism is the advocacy for women to have EQUAL rights and opportunities as men, not better. Chauvinism is the belief that one's group is superior to that of others. What collegebond78 describes is female chauvinism, not feminism. </p>
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<p>That sounds more like etiquette. When you see a woman holding a door open for a man instead of vice-versa, or a woman paying for a date instead of the man paying, it wouldn't be perceived as an act of superiority of women over men. It's just straying from etiquette.</p>
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<p>Omg, get out of the 18th century. I asked out my boyfriend. I pay for the dates. I drive us when we go places. Despite what you think, women do pay sometimes.</p>
<p>This is getting ludicrous. Some of the CC guys on this forum, notably stanford need to get a life and a perspective. University and the money that subsequently generally comes with it, is not the be all and end all of life. In fact its only a single facet in life. </p>
<p>This man vs woman thread is stupid. Anyone who thinks EITHER gender is better, is a bitter person.</p>
<p>btw, this seems hypocritical but I think guys should pay for dates. Its not that girls aren't 'equipped' to do that, far from it in fact. But I can't explain my justification, its just so entrenched in me. Look, if I had a girlfriend way richer then me, I still wouldn't let her pay, I'd just do something with her in my budget. Is that sexism? Because I genuinely think girls and guys are equal at everything. I just wouldn't want a girl to pay for me. I don't mind the girl asking the guy out bit, but paying for dates?</p>
<p>that Stanford person just degraded the entire school with his opinion and fallacious argument. thank god I'm not going to that school.</p>
<p>"That sounds more like etiquette. When you see a woman holding a door open for a man instead of vice-versa, or a woman paying for a date instead of the man paying, it wouldn't be perceived as an act of superiority of women over men. It's just straying from etiquette"</p>
<p>I didn't say anything about holding doors? But paying for dates is a different thing. Etiquette dictates that women are supposed to cook and clean during the dating phase (do they clean your dorm room lol) and women are supposed to be barefoot and pregnant. When the average cost of a date is $114 etiquette can jump out of the window. If men and women are so equal why should men have to spend an average of $40,000 in the average 2.5 year dating period preceding marriage. How much do you think women spend?</p>
<p>Shore obviously you don't think the genders are equal. you think women are probably better and you are catering to them. I hope you know most women don't like men who give much. You know what happens to nice guys. Expect to get as much as you give. That holds true for any relationship.</p>
<p>This is prob. the stupidest thread I've ever read.</p>
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I make sure I pay for dinner once for every time my boyfriend does. We take turns. And I may not have asked him out, but I sure as hell pursued him for months before he decided he liked me, too. x__x</p>
<p>Collegebond78, I know that many feminists are whiny b-tches who, despite claims to the contrary, do, as you said, "think women are better" and expect the world to cater to their needs. That's why I distinguished between these "feminists" (the word "womyn" annoys me to no end) and women who focus their attention on inequalities that still exist and do their best to right them (and NOT by overcompensating, although I don't want this thread to degenerate into an affirmative action debate.) Honestly, I can't see myself devoting myself to such a cause -- it seems that many of these inequalities may be legitimate and called for (the discrepancy in pay per hour, for example -- after all, women are more likely to get pregnant... I don't trust my knowledge of economics enough to know for sure whether this is a wrong that needs righting or a vapid complaint of the typical feminist, a woman who makes herself subservient through her actions and then has a hissy fit about it.) What I'm trying to say is, I know that there are "feminists" out there to whom "equality" is anything but. But I also know that there are women who are doing their best to make society see them as equals, because as much as we may deny it -- and as little as I see it in my happy, suburban town -- there are still sexist attitudes out there. </p>
<p> [quote=collegebond78] I hope you know most women don't like men who give much. You know what happens to nice guys. Expect to get as much as you give. That holds true for any relationship.
You, my friend, seem a little bitter. Is it that you're one of these "nice guys" -- or more likely, just a "quiet guy," maybe not a lapdog to women but not overbearing -- and are tired of seeing girls go for the loud, confident, sometimes degrading ones? Hmm.</p>
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Etiquette dictates that women are supposed to cook and clean during the dating phase (do they clean your dorm room lol) and women are supposed to be barefoot and pregnant. When the average cost of a date is $114 etiquette can jump out of the window. If men and women are so equal why should men have to spend an average of $40,000 in the average 2.5 year dating period preceding marriage. How much do you think women spend?
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<p>Um, it looks like you've got the wrong idea of etiquette. Etiqutte doesn't mean women "cook and clean during the dating phase" or "be barefoot and pregnant". How did it go from equality issues to complaining about the cost of dates? You're just bitter.</p>
<p>I don't spend nearly as much on my dates, probably no more than $50 without the gas prices. There are so many places that you can go for free or next to free.</p>
<p>These only so much you can do with a $7 an hour wage.</p>
<p>Its not that girls aren't 'equipped' to do that, far from it in fact. But I can't explain my justification, its just so entrenched in me. Look, if I had a girlfriend way richer then me, I still wouldn't let her pay, I'd just do something with her in my budget. Is that sexism?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>I think it's kind of hilarious how many people here like to diss feminists without even knowing who they are or what they stand for.
Fact: Today in the United States, women earn about 75 cents for every dollar a man earns--for the same job.
Fact: Though 10% of rape victims are male, 99% of rapists are men.
Fact: Though women make up 51% of the US population, they make up only 13% of Congress.
If the above statements tick you off, you are a feminist.
If the above statements make your male superiority complex orgasm, I cannot help you.</p>
<p>Stanford said:
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<p>My response: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.</p>
<p>I'm sure your future wife would be happy to dump taking care of the children and grocery shopping on you. Go for it.</p>
<p>I feel sorry for the girlfriends of most of the guys on this thread (if they have them).</p>
<p>I'm sorry to do this to my own gender, but girls definitely win on this thread. I mean, if you're going to be a chauvinist, at least back up your chauvinism with a somewhat logical argument.</p>
<p>^^ I don't know how any girl could date most of the guys on here with their low opinions of women.</p>
<p>"Fact: Today in the United States, women earn about 75 cents for every dollar a man earns--for the same job.</p>
<p>Female engineers make 117% of what their male counterparts earn. Men earn more due to negotiation skills, longer hours, and they are less likely to take time off or switch careers.</p>
<p>Fact: Though 10% of rape victims are male, 99% of rapists are men.</p>
<p>And about 40-60% of rape accusations against males are false. Men are also the victims of 35% of domestic abuse cases (but where are the men's shelters..?)</p>
<p>Fact: Though women make up 51% of the US population, they make up only 13% of Congress."</p>
<p>What does that have to do with anything? Women can run for office if they want to. Women make up a majority of the American population and most voters. If they wanted female congresswomen they have the power to do so but nobody wants them.</p>
<p>Lol you know nothing about feminism do you?</p>
<p>Read "The Myth of Male Power". If women are treated so badly why is there a father's rights movement and men's right movement occurring in North America and Europe. (look up the group Fathers4justice)</p>
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<p>Not true. You can easily be traced, even college admissions officers can find out who you are.</p>