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<p>With the application in, my anxiety about Brown is building. Would you care to chance me (although Brown admissions can be arbitrary and impossible to chance)? Can you tell me good, average, or bad shot? Thanks. I will try to list everything.</p>

<p>Academics
SAT 1: Math- 800 CR- 730 Writing- 750 Composite- 2280
ACT: Composite- 32 Composite Superscore- 33
SAT II: Math II- 770, BiologyM- 750, US History- 740 <em>I think these are a weakness</em>
GPA: 4.00 UW, 5.89 W
AP: Calculus AB-5 Bio- 5 US Hist- 5
Rank: 1/450 at a public school in Phoenix, AZ (not very competative)
Senior Curriculum: AP Environmental Science (independent study), AP Spanish, AP English Lit, AP Calc BC (independent study), AP US Government, AP Physics B
Awards: National Merit Commendation, AP Scholar, National Honor Society, School Poetry Contest- 1st place 3 years consecutively, District Poetry Contest- 3rd place (9, 10), School Science Fair- 2nd place out of over 100 projects, ASU Science Symposium (present science project) Invitation, Tons of smaller school awards like student of the month and outstanding senior</p>

<p>Extracurriculars In School (leadership, awards)(years):

  1. Varsity Cross Country (All Region Student Athlete 2007, Captain)(9, 10, 11, 12)
  2. Varsity Track (Captain) (9, 10, 11, 12)
  3. JV Soccer (Captain) (9, 10, 11) Varsity Soccer (12)
  4. Science Club (President, Head of Zoology Department) (9, 10, 11, 12)
  5. Fellowship of Christian Athletes (Vice President) (9, 10, 11, 12)
  6. Best Buddies (Peer Member) (9, 10, 11, 12)
  7. Young Republicans Club (President, Founder) (12)
  8. National Honor Society</p>

<p>Extracurriculars Out of School (leadership, awards)(years):

  1. Boy Scouts of America (Eagle Scout) (9, 10, 11, 12)
  2. Bank of America Student Leader Nonprofit Internship Program (12)
  3. Catholic Youth Group (9, 10, 11, 12)
  4. Catholic Social Justice Organization (12)</p>

<p>Work Experience:

  1. Advanced Lifeguard (10, 11)
  2. Bank of America Student Leader (Boys and Girls Club Nonprofit Intership) (12) </p>

<p>Hook: None. I’m white and middle class.</p>

<p>Future: I want to study Biology at Brown along with poverty economics, global health policy, and environmental studies. I wish to attend medical school and then become a doctor working for a nonprofit such as Doctors Without Borders. Also, I would like to do medical research more focusing on prevention of disease rather than treatment. </p>

<p>Recommendations: I think they should be strong. My biology teacher is not the strongest writer but still talked highly of me and her experience with my. My history teacher is a strong writer and talked about the fact that he removed me from the classes curve because I made it too difficult for the other students. </p>

<p>Essays: If you want to read them, PM me. I would be happy to have them evaluated. </p>

<p>Campus Visit: No, I have not visited campus because my dad has cancer. </p>

<p>Location: Phoenix, AZ</p>

<p>Other Schools: Stanford, Yale, Dartmouth, Rice, Williams, Bowdoin, Middlebury, <em>Pomona</em></p>

<p>Thanks for your help! Did I forget anything? I know it is difficult to chance, but be honest with me. Is there anything I could do to improve my chances (retake tests)?</p>

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<p>beast .</p>

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<p>I am also a white, male lifeguard. What makes a lifeguard an 'advanced' lifeguard? just of curiousity...besides that i can't give you much more of an explanation than you obviously have a great application, but, unfortunately, so do tons of other kids. It could go either way, but I wouldn't be surprised if you were accepted to at least 3 or 4 schools on your list.</p>

<p>also i think they will admire your willingness to go above and beyond what your school offers by doing independent studies.</p>

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<p>advanced lifeguard (in the city of phoenix) simply means that you have WSI (water safety instructor) training. So basically, it means I get to teach lessons along with guarding!</p>

<p>thanks for the input. Any more would be appreciated.</p>

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<p>I don't do chances. Did you apply to any safety schools? You really should.</p>

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<p>Uhm... Ok then. I'm assuming the other people are just jealous? </p>

<p>I'll chance you: You're fine. Don't even worry about it. Brown's a match if not a low-match. And if you get into the school's you're getting into, make sure to come visit our admit days.</p>

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<p>this tells a lot: Rank: 1/450 !</p>

<p>You will be accepted !</p>

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<p>68% of valedictorians were rejected by Brown last year.
74% of kids scoring 800 on the Math SAT were rejected. </p>

<p>Brown is not a match or low match for anyone (athletic recruits might be the one exception). Brown is most certainly NOT a match for biology91.</p>

<p>There is no sure thing in Ivy League admissions. Everyone needs a safety school.</p>

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<p>While no one should truly consider themselves a "match" for an Ivy, you have very, very good chances. You have strong scores, strong ECs, strong grades, and strong leadership. You have a substantial chance among the applicant pool, however nothing is ever sure in the college market today.</p>

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<p>fireandrain...get over it. The kid's got good stats. It's a match. He/she should also apply to safeties, but I mean comeon. Let's not overestimate Brown's admissions.</p>

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<p>
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fireandrain...get over it. The kid's got good stats. It's a match. He/she should also apply to safeties, but I mean comeon. Let's not overestimate Brown's admissions.

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You should request a name change to 'BrownAdmissions' since you obviously know how adcoms work.</p>

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<p>"68% of valedictorians were rejected by Brown last year.
74% of kids scoring 800 on the Math SAT were rejected. "</p>

<p>I hate these kinds of stats, even if technically true. Every place, whether an elite boarding school in New Hampshire or a low-key public school in Oklohama, has a valedictorian, sometime more than one, sometimes many more than one. A rather large university in the Midwest has an astoundingly high number of high ranked people. Why? Because those people tend to be ranked first in less competitive high schools. </p>

<p>And the second stat just doesn't say the whole story. How many had below 750 on CR? 700? 650? </p>

<p>It's also worth noting that this means one in four who did get an 800 in Math and applied to Brown were accepted.</p>

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<p>by no means do i have any idea how admission people think, i still believe it's mostly a crap shoot.</p>

<p>but i do believe that the essays and teacher recommendations are some of the most important pieces of the application. you have great test scores and fantastic ECs, but just make sure to really portray your personality and character through your essays, and getting recommendations from those who respect you should be really helpful.</p>

<p>again, idk about the whole thing, but i do know that my recommendations were great and my admissions officer loved my brown supplement essay, so i'd say that those are really important, so be sure to take them just as/if not more seriously than everything else!</p>

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<p>xsteven: You know what? I think I just might.</p>

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<p>I agree with amadeuic, being valevictorian does not automatically mean an increadable student simply a better one than those in one's environment. Class rank in general (and I know this is probably a radical idea) doesn't show a student's merit academically but rather how hard they worked/smart they are in comparison to the students they attend school with. I transffered into a private school my sophmore year from a public school. If I had stayed where I was no doubt I would be the top student in my class but that was because the rest of the students didnt care. Once I switched and was around students who worked as hard as I and at times harder my ranking dropped.
Biology91- I'm not someone who likes to chance people because as you said, chancing is impossible to predict. Your stats look good and I personally think AP scores are the best indicator of a student because they are not subective to how hard a teacher grades or if your teacher does/doesnt like you and your AP's are strong.</p>

<p>ps- I'm sorry about your dad..</p>

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<p>I think chancing is a waste of time... You're stats are obviously good (and you know that) and you've clearly done tones of things outside of school... You're stats are an accumulation of 4 years in high school, there is nothing you can do now to improve them (and you know that too)... There is no key to getting into an Ivy League institution. I personally think people do this (put all there information online) just to show off and prematurely size up the other applicants... no offense...</p>

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7) Young Republicans Club (President, Founder) (12)

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<p>auto-rejection right here.</p>

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<p>Actually, airbag, I was about to say that this EC might be his hook and the key to his acceptance.</p>

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<p>How is starting a club a hook/key to acceptance?</p>

<p>No offense, but I'm pretty sure colleges know by now that kids only start clubs because they want another extracurricular to be in charge of. </p>

<p>This year, there were like an extra 30 clubs at my school because everyone just started to make them. </p>

<p>I understand it shows interest, but nonetheless, it really isn't that unique or anything....</p>

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<p>It might be a hook for him because Brown is so liberal that they want a bit more political diversity. It might not be the key to his acceptance but it brings something different to the table than a lot of people who apply to Brown.</p>