Seeking Yale students that would be labeled AVERAGE by the PERFECT Applicant

<h2>This was a story I found from the book "Get Into Any College Secrets of Harvard Students" By Gen S. Tanabe and Kelly Y. Tanabe.</h2>

<p>"Story From Real Life: You Can Be Normal & Still Get Into Harvard"</p>

<p>"Eugene's experience demonstrates that you don't have to be an academic or athletic superstar to get into a great school. Both your accomplishments and your approach to admissions are important. Success requires effort and a thoughtful approach."
-Gen and Kelly </p>

<p>"I am living proof that you don't have to be a superstar to get into Harvard. Although I went to a competitive high school, I was far from being an outstnding student. Unlike my friends who had perfect 4.0s, my report card was littered with "B's." I did get "A's," but still my transcript was nothing to get excited about. I got average SAT scores. They weren't terrible, but they weren't great either. I was a member of a few groups although my highest position was secretary for my school's public service club. I have to admit that when I filled out my college application even I was shocked at how "average" I was on paper."</p>

<p>"My only chance I felt was to work really hard on the essay and hopefully get good teacher evaluations. I don't know what my teacher's wrote, but it must not have been that bad. I was the kind of student who always tried hard. I also spent a lot of time on my essay and must have written and rewritten it a dozen or more times. But still nobody ever imagined that I would get into Harvard."</p>

<p>"Was everyone shocked when April came. Even I was stunned when I opened the acceptance letter. In fact, soon after I arrived at Harvard my roommates and I had a late discussion about how we got in. We began comparing SATs, grades, and anything else to see why we were chosen. When I told them what I had gotten, they couldn't help but tease, "How in the world did you get in?""</p>

<p>"It was pretty obviois that it was not my grades, scores, or activities that got me in. I think I owe it mostly to my essay and evaluations. My point is not that admissions is arbitrary (I think the opposite is true), but I hope all of you who are thinking about applying to Harvard will not be discouraged just because other have better grades, higer scores, or are more active in clubs or sports. As I found out, it's not a prerequiste for you to be school president, valedictorian, and football team captain all at the same time to get into Harvard."</p>

<p>"Harvard does take normal people too. At first I was embarrassed at how low my scores were in comparison to my roommates. But now I freely admit my "averageness." And Harvard must know a little about success since I have consistently gotten better grades than my roommates who, based on their high school records, are far more outstanding than I." </p>

<h2>-Eugene, who is at Harvard and is still normal</h2>

<p>The reason why I put up this thread is because I am seeking to find people who like Eugene would be considered by many people as average, but they still get accepted to a competitive Ivy League School. I would apreciate deeply if those people would be willing to give the following stats about themselves, since college confidential mostly has students with perfect or near perfect students applying to the ivy league colleges. I am sure many College Confidential members would benefit from this thread.</p>

<p>SAT I:
[ *] SAT IIs:
[ *] GPA:
[ *] Rank:
[ *] Other stats:
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays:
[ *] Teacher Recs:
[ *] Counselor Rec:
[ *] Hook (if any):
[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country:
[ *] School Type:
[ *] Ethnicity:
[ *] Gender:
[ *] Extracurricular Activities:
[ *] Leadership Positions:
[ *] Volunteer Activities:
[ *] Total # of hours volunteering:
[ *] Teams:
[ *] Number of years or season played in the teams:
[ *] Perceived Strengths/Weaknesses:
[ *] Why you think you were accepted:
[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b]
[ b]General Comments
[ *] Advice</p>

<p>stop making these threads. you're annoying. and ppl wont benefit from this.</p>

<p>cowsprite: I'm sorry to say this, but you're wrong. Not only did you insult Raihan Mirza, but you also claimed no one can benefit from this. Just because you might not benefit from it doesn't mean others won't. For newcomers and/or for any average student, reading this thread could give them hope. It could inspire them to apply and maybe, even get accepted. </p>

<p>I'm not trying to pick a fight, but reading your comment made me mad.</p>

<p>im not trying to start an argument either, but let's just say that ANYONE that is accepted into HYPS or other prestigious school for that isn't average. to say that an average person got accepted isn't fair for the thousands of exceptional applicants with great stats/ECs/personalities who got rejected in their place.</p>

<p>It might not be fair but s*** happens. Average applicants have and will get accepted over "exceptional" applicants for a variety of reasons.</p>

<p>Obviously an "average" applicant isn't actually average, but exceptional for some reason. College admissions officers have a lot of applicants to pick from - they won't take someone who doesn't have <em>something</em>. Cowsprite is right in that anyone who is accepted to a selective university obviously was better than the competition in some respect. To call them average or weak applicants denigrates that accomplishment and implies that they got 'lucky'.</p>

<p>Mr. Pink, you are right. No applicant is exactly "average". But right now, in this thread, Raihan Mirza is looking for people with average stats who got into IVY league. Just because a person has average stats does not mean, that he/she is "average". </p>

<p>Cowsprite: No one is average, but right now, Raihan Mirza is looking for people who got accepted into IVY league with limited oppotunities or not so great stats. The most important thing that makes people exceptional is their character. If their character shines to the level where it attracts IVY league, then then they get accepted. Maybe, those brillant students who got rejected didn't show enough character. Personality is a big thing when you apply to colleges. </p>

<p>I'm sorry I said "average student" in my last post. Let me clarify that I meant students with not so great stats or limited opportunities. I don't know about Raihan Mirza, but I think he/she is looking for people with not so perfect stats.</p>

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-Eugene, who is at Harvard and is still normal

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<p>If one implies that "normal people" do indeed exist - difficult to determine, since a standard for "normal" would probably require two people being alike, which is quite impossible - then is it really surprising that "normal" students exist at Harvard? This statement seems to assume that if one got into Harvard, one is probably not "normal." Granted, Ivy League-caliber students usually have high grades and test scores, but putting it this way makes it sound as if there's something wrong with that.</p>

<p>Hey, why such hostility? I think it's nice that people try do things like this to reassure applicants.</p>

<p>I also find threads like these pointless. If you are the average Yale applicant, you will not get in. When admission rates are 8% and you are in the 50th percentile, the chances will not be good. In my experience, it is easier for a great applicant which I consider to be in 95th percentile to be rejected than for an average applicant to luck in. Reassurance on this board will not help get you in. Hard work will, even if it's just spending an extra hour polishing your application. If you're an average student, consider athletics or a large donation. If you can't find anything exceptional about yourself which Yale might be interested in, then you should probably question whether you should luck in, rather than whether you could.</p>

<p>The funny thing is, I don't get why this kid got in either. I hope there was more to him than he said, because he basically sounds like he has next to nothing to contribute to the school. I'm not sure how much I want to applaud him for being far from a superstar in the classroom with good but not outstanding grades, someone who chose to blend in in his highschool, opting out of extracurricur activities for the most part. Someone whose only passion, it appears, was getting into a top school. I'm not sure what is so inspiring about his story. By his senior year he figured out he wanted in to an Ivy League (Harvard) and so he worked hard on an essay. Great.
Basically what I mean is, none of his story is impressive, I dont see why anyone would want to be like him.</p>