Sending a kid to college in a state that is trying to ban abortions

Remember when certain states passed laws banning gay marriage, and a lot of organizations then cancelled conventions scheduled to be held in those states? That led to some pretty darn quick legislative about-faces, if I recall correctly. Of course, the entire issue was made moot when gay marriage became the settled law of the land.

Now, the film industry is talking about boycotting states which are attempting to undermine the settled law of the land, namely, a woman’s right to privacy in reproductive health, including the right to obtain an abortion. Perhaps organizations will begin cancelling conventions, too. But it never occurred to me that families might consider this in deciding where to send their kids to college, until the U of Alabama returned a huge donation to their law school, and pulled the donor’s name off the school before you could blink, because the donor raised the possibility that out of state students might boycott the school, based upon Alabama’s state legislature passing legislation banning abortions, in an attempt to undermine the settled federal law regarding a woman’s right to obtain an abortion.

That got me thinking. When I was in college, if I had had the misfortune of an accidental pregnancy, I sure as hell would NOT have called home to ask my parents to fly me home for an abortion, because it wasn’t obtainable in the state where I was attending college. I would have taken care of it on my own, and I wouldn’t have told them. In my line of work, I have counseled many young women who have become unintentionally pregnant, and not a single one of them wanted to tell her parents about it, although many of them chose to, because they needed help in whatever decision they made about the pregnancy. But these were teens who were still living at home, not young adults away at college.

Certainly, were there to be a movement by parents and their high school kids to boycott states that are passing laws making it impossible to obtain an abortion, it would affect the economies of those states. But more importantly, do individual parents want to send their daughters to college in a state where they couldn’t obtain an abortion, should they need one? Parents like to think that their daughters would come to them for help in this situation, but the fact is, most young women would prefer to keep this matter private from their parents. And we worry about our kids’ mental health while away at college. The fact is, being pregnant and not being able to get an abortion, if that’s what you want, is a very strong risk factor for suicide attempts.

I realize that this is a controversial post, and that’s another reason why I’m posting it in the Parents’ Forum. The kids are on this about as much as they’re on Facebook (which means NOT on it). I’m not trying to spark a boycott movement - not that I wouldn’t necessarily support one. I’m hoping to hear how parents feel about sending their daughters away to colleges in states where their daughters would have great difficulty obtaining an abortion, knowing that even the most open and supportive families will still have daughters who won’t turn to their parents for help in the event of an unintended pregnancy. And it doesn’t only affect our daughters. Imagine having your son face the situation where he has gotten a girl pregnant, they want an abortion, but cannot get one in that state. Many college kids don’t have cars at school, don’t have a lot of disposable income to pay not only for an abortion, but for long distance travel and overnight stays. I can see this putting a great deal of stress on the young man involved, too. Imagine trying to study and achieve under these circumstances.

Have you considered this in deciding which colleges are a good fit for your kids? Should you?

Personally, if I was currently looking for one of my kids right now, those states would not be considered and if I was looking to relocate or expand a business, those states would not be considered.

"until the U of Alabama returned a huge donation to their law school, and pulled the donor’s name off the school before you could blink, "

Hope the donor redirected the $$

It’s probably not a major factor, but one of the many things to be considered. But I’m trying to get D exposed to a more liberal environment anyway, since we live deep in red state territory, and I think it is good to get exposed to other viewpoints. She agrees. So a state where this is happening wasn’t high on her or my list anyway.

I’m sure if there are boycotts, the state won’t miss the type of person that would be boycotting. Mission accomplished.

“I’m sure if there are boycotts, the state won’t miss the type of person that would be boycotting. Mission accomplished.”

I wouldn’t be too sure of that.

I’m done with college admissions in my own family, but parents in my community are DEFINITELY talking about this. A lot. It’s not that they are necessarily boycotting out of philosophy, but they are ruling out those states as a practical matter. They wouldn’t want their daughters to have a hard time getting an abortion if necessary.

I suppose a boycott could impact smaller schools, but places like UT-Austin, Georgia Tech, and several other great ones in those states? They would snicker and move on.

I do everything in my economic power to avoid sending business to states that support discriminatory legislation. I will do the same for states that are trying to regulate control over a woman’s body. My kids both ruled out the south entirely for schools so that wasn’t an issue but we had a bad moment when the Indiana legislature was passing freedom to discriminate laws mid way through my daughter’s time at Purdue. Would we have pulled her from school? Probably not, but if IN had passed laws allowing discrimination or outlawing abortions before she applied to college Purdue would simply have been taken off her list. Individuals only have a few forms of influence in this country - economic power is one and I wield it as scrupulously as I can.

Like I said, for the families I know, it’s not about making an impact on the college or getting them to notice. It’s about families/students wanting to choose the best fit for themselves. It’s another factor to consider when making a choice.

In many of the states in question, abortions were already difficult to get due to previously passed laws.

It’s pretty theoretical for me so far as my one child who can get pregnant wants to stay on the west coast and my other 2 are various flavors of LGBT which means we need to keep them in states where they’ll be safe, which tend to overlap with those that don’t have strict abortion laws. Although I see from googling that Minnesota is trying to pass a stricter abortion bill and middle kid is looking at colleges there, and we had also looked at a school in Ohio. Not sure what I’d say currently about Missouri tbh.

I guess if I had a daughter heading off to college in a state that either had a ban or was known to have a limited number of clinics, I’d let her know that if she or a friend needed rescuing I’d be happy to do it. One of my FB friends in Oregon had a post up recently that, paraphrased, basically said that if any of her friends living in one of the abortion-ban states suddenly needed a quick trip to visit Auntie M in Oregon for a few days she’d be more than happy to put them up and make them tea and cookies, no judgment.

My daughter was choosing between Georgia Tech and UCLA this year. She was swaying towards UCLA, but when the Governor signed the “Fetal Heartbeat Law” on May 7th it did make her decision sway even more to UCLA. I know that GT is really quite liberal, but I would not any of my money going towards any part of a state that is taking us back in time instead of moving us forward.

For us it wouldn’t have been a deciding factor, as it was really up to D. But I certainly would have brought it up for discussion.

I’ve actually been surprised by how politically aware D is. I know when I was in college, my awareness ended at the campus border. So our kids are likely thinking and talking about these things with each other even if we’re not raising it as parents.

I was watching a CA congresswoman on Bill Maher (HBO) and she said flat out that placing restrictions on choices women can make over their bodies also restricts their economic freedom. So yeah, those states should be out, almost categorically, unless the alternate colleges are not affordable.

To answer the OP’s question, since we are a very pro-life family, (our college age daughters are actively engaged in the pro-life movement) these laws would obviously not deter our children from attending.

The laws in Missouri, Ohio, Alabama, Georgia, aren’t in effect currently, so they shouldn’t impact students who are currently enrolled. They can safely finish their studies there. And if it matters to them, they can participate in campaigns one way or another, which is very good for their growth as citizens.

I’m a woman with two daughters of child-bearing age. It would not really concern me, or them.

They are staying in-state, anyway, in a flyover state that very few people care about until election season.

It’s d21’s decision, but she has decided no way any of these states make the list. And she doesn’t plan on getting an abortion. Misses the point entirely whoever made that ridiculous comment.

Everyone has the option of deciding where they will or will not choose to apply. Boycotting is overall a personal decision. This is a subject that goes about 50/50. There are instances where boycotts can backfire (think chick filet their sales increase after nearly every call for a boycott). There may be some families who choose Alabama because they support the states decision. In the end Alabama will always have the advantage of being a good state flagship that offers great guaranteed FA for top students. It is the students and their families decision as to whether or not state politics sways their decisions whether or not to apply. This is a dangerous conversation for this site.

It would have been a concern for me and my kids. Not being able to get health care services conveniently is a significant problem, especially for an out-of-state student.