<p>I read somewhere on Wikipedia (lol) that SERE training is being reinstated for the class of 2008? Anyone have any information on this?</p>
<p>Information on SERE training, or the fact that it may be re-instated?</p>
<p>do you mean the class of 2012 entering in '08?</p>
<p>This summer (for the class of 2011), they're reintroducing a slightly toned-down version of SERE known as CST (Combat Survivial Training). Since none of the upperclasses have had it though, we're way short on qualified CST cadre, so only about 500 will be doing it this summer. CST will replace Ops for those involved. The program should be in full swing for the class of 2012 (during the summer of '09), so I'd expect it'll be mandatory for them.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, I meant class of 2012, entering 2008. So it is definitely reinstalled then? Has anyone gone through this before, and if yes, what was it like?</p>
<p>Can't tell you what the program was like at the AFA, but I did go through the program held at McHord AFB in WA. All I can say is, "please mommy, make the bad man stop!"</p>
<p>In BS the other day (that's behavioral science), a pair of lieutenant colonels got talking about their past SERE experiences. It sounds like the kind of thing you won't want to do twice, to say the least.</p>
<p>Love the quote, bullet. :)</p>
<p>In all seriousness, SERE was one of the most grueling, toughest, and emotional experiences I have EVER faced, and the memories of that place are seared into my mind as equally as the birth of my children. And if they told me I had to do it again or give up flying, it would be a long and tough decision on my part (and I would hope for a promise on their part that they would keep me flying for at least 10 more years before I said yes).</p>
<p>You will go into it, full of bravado, saying to yourself "do your worst, I'm ready for it." They will, and you won't be. Pay attention, learn, and gather the lessons that one day may save your life. </p>
<p>And if you ever have the privelege to meet someone who was a POW (I've had that privilege several times), you go up to that person, shake their hand, and tell them how proud and honored you are to meet them. There is another thread on this forum that talks about courage and heroes. It is rare in life that you get to meet a living example.</p>
<p>just curious, do you walk into the SERE program or you sign up and suddenly one day your kidnapped? ^^</p>
<p>No idea how it is run at the Academy, as I didn't go though it there. But for operational security reasons, I can not discuss details about how this program is run. Please accept my apologies if that comes across as blunt, but sometimes, especially when you're talking training as valuable as SERE, you need to leave the details out so the information doesn't get to places where it can be used against us. I promise to be funny again some other thread. :)</p>
<p>The USAFA one does not have the resistance portion. People will be taught survival techniques in the woods of the Ramparts here.</p>
<p>not trying to cite wikipedia or anything, but it says that since the resistance part was taken away, it was just renamed CST.. so they won't reinstate the resistance part for the AFA? if not, why change the name back to SERE unless the training is different?</p>
<p>Oh, that part I loved (compared to SERE)! And the information is just as important. Keep a good attitude, and you will have a blast!</p>
<p>And just remember, it all tastes like chicken! (see , I made a funny! :) )</p>
<p>No, it is being called CST here, not SERE. In the past up till 2007, the program counted as the SEE parts of SERE so that grads only had to do resistance training at Fairchild. It will not have the credentials to do that again here for a few years.</p>
<p>alright sorry i forgot petko's 2nd post; they're not bringin back sere, just bringin back CST. okay gotcha</p>
<p>Yea it should be alot of fun, I was little sad when I found out I would have to give up my OPS for it, but it still sounds like a blast. I'm looking forward to it. I know about 2 weeks of it will be class/lesson enviroments where they teach us what we need to know, then we will have a week out on our own, in the mountains..:) (trying not to get caught and obviously survive..) . Then next year us 11'ers(OLDS GOLD, :) ) will be the Cadre for the class of 12 and 13, teaching them what we learned.</p>
<p>i didnt mind too much that i was drafted for CST, but im kindof mad about the cadre commitment for the next two summers, i really, REALLY wanted to be cadre for BCT1</p>
<p>My wife went through sere in the late eighties at the Air Force Academy when they still did the resistance (pow) segment of the training. She did fine...better than a lot of the male cadets. She feels that cadets of today are missing out by just doing the survival portion. She kept a positive attitude and looked at it as just something she had to get through to graduate. I'm not sure if the AFA's sere was as intense as some of the Army/Navy/Marine sere schools I've read about but I'm sure it was challenging enough for most. I never had a chance to get sere as a Marine because of the limited slots available at the time I was in so I envy her on that experience.</p>
<p>Full out SERE will be required for 2012 between their 4 and 3 degree years to include the POW training. The new SERE squadron was activated a couple weeks ago.</p>
<p>oy, so we're getting the full-fledged SERE back? sounds like a challenge</p>