<p>Hi guys. I am a desperate Chinese with really low standardized test scores: SAT 1: 1750; SAT 2---Math 1: 700, Math 2: 700; TOEFL 75. (Plus I need full financial aid.) Do you know anyone with the same stats getting into Harvard and other Ivies (I am also applying to Brown, Yale, Penn Wharton, Cornell, Stanford.)</p>
<p>My essays are really unique---I worked hard on them.</p>
<p>with respect to your SAT scores, your chances are slim. considering the number of well qualified asians who applied to harvard, your chances are even slimmer. </p>
<p>you said that you are chinese… do you live in china or somewhere in the continental US?
also, you only listed two SAT scores… well, it might be an issue since they are both math. remember, you need three different SAT subject tests for admissions.</p>
<p>Ah, I forgot, I also took Lit (530). For your information, I am living in China (Beijing).</p>
<p>Any hooks to help?</p>
<p>Not at all. I only my essays and GPA (top 10%).</p>
<p>You only have two subject tests.</p>
<p>I can’t imagine Harvard will accept both the Math I and the Math II as two of the required subject tests, only one or the other.</p>
<p>First, it’s probably not the best idea to cross post in the forum for every school you want to go to. There’s a chances section where you can ask your chances for multiple schools.</p>
<p>If you want to apply you really need to improve your TOEFL score. Although it’s optional for Harvard, other selective schools want a minimum 100 web-based for applicants to be considered. Your other scores are probably going to hurt you as well.</p>
<p>“I can’t imagine Harvard will accept both the Math I and the Math II as two of the required subject tests, only one or the other.”</p>
<p>Harvard does accept both Math I and the Math II as 2 of the required tests, but it also requires a third subject test.</p>
<p>i think the important thing for you to understand is that, while many of us in China are overly obsessed with the prestige of the schools, it REALLY IS MORE IMPORTANT for you to go to a school you enjoy.
If you apply to such schools wayyy above your level, and by some odd chance get accepted, you will only find all the classes overly difficult, and possibly have trouble fitting in with your peers. You might get back on track, but most likely you will have a miserable four years.
A more sensible thing to do is to face reality, and apply for a school in your region of achievement (which could still be great schools with great teachers and programs that you can thoroughly enjoy). IF you really have to aim for the prestige, for employment in china or whatever other reason, work really hard in undergrad, and go to an ivy grad program.</p>
<p>It’s only remotely possible with those stats.</p>
<p>000ace maybe he took his SATs last minute. or he studied for them 2 weeks, will adcoms consider which test date he took etc?</p>
<p>to the thread starter-</p>
<p>well, sorry for stereotyping, but are you like amazing at math and have done research/competitions/math olympiad? anything like that?
000ace000 is right that you might struggle, but if your a math major or something and really love it, you’ll do well…but like make sure the rest of your app is good</p>
<p>If my math is correct (someone verify this), the sat percentile range is 2000-2300 or something right? (25-75%), doesnt that mean like 500 of the kids harvard admits have sat scores below 2000? given that they admit 2000? +/- couple hundred</p>
<p>I dont think your chances are like slim to 0, as long as you have a good explanation for sats + great everything else, then you might have a better chance, but not a guranteed acceptance</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>n00bpwner, </p>
<p>CR: 690-800
Math: 700-780
Writing: 690-790</p>
<p>Page 9: <a href=“http://www.provost.harvard.edu/institutional_research/Provost_-_CDS2008_2009_Harvard_for_Web_Clean.pdf[/url]”>http://www.provost.harvard.edu/institutional_research/Provost_-_CDS2008_2009_Harvard_for_Web_Clean.pdf</a></p>
<p>It wouldn’t make much sense to add up all the 25% scores and all the 75% scores because students might have scored in the 99th percentile in one section and the 20th percentile of another, but if you did add them it would be 2080-2370 for the middle 50%. Like I said though, that is still pretty inaccurate.</p>
<p>To the OP- Realistically, you should be targeting schools where your SAT I hits in the 50th percentile range. Your list is all high reaches. So much of success in U.S. college depends upon verbal ability, and it seems your strenght is math.</p>
<p>I doubt it, to be honest.</p>
<p>Try retaking it if you can.</p>
<p>you will not get into harvard or any similar school with those scores</p>
<p>Probably a safety.</p>
<p>I’m going to have to reiterate what most of the posters before me said. Sorry. :(</p>
<p>n00bpwner: In addition to what Structur3 said, also consider that a fair portion of the students that fall below the 50% range are athletic recruits.</p>
<p>But the great thing is, despite what you might be hearing in China, there are tons of fabulous universities besides Harvard/Brown/Yale/Penn/Cornell/Stanford. Remember that what you hear in China about those schools being the keys to success isn’t reflective of the reality in the US.</p>
<p>There’s no point in sugarcoating it, you will be rejected from the schools you listed. Hopefully you have some alternatives.</p>