<p>My S was admitted Columbia, Brown, Cornell, and UPenn.
He would study Bio/Chemistry area. Are these schools good at the science programs? PLesae let me know as much as you can. Thanks.</p>
<p>Cornell is probably the best out of the 4.</p>
<p>nvm i read the prompt wrong.
Columbia
Penn
Cornell
Brown</p>
<p>I know Columbia is good at liberal arts.. not sure about science program.
He did not get in any place he really wants. He thought all the ivy schools are strong at liberal arts only. Please help!!</p>
<p>suprising, in biology yea i would give the edge to columbia.
in chemistry though they are both even.</p>
<p>Brown is super liberal so I don't really like that.</p>
<p>Cornell is the worst. It is the easiest to get in and the environment blows. Bunch of backstabbing kids with nothing to do but feed their own inferiority complexes. Oh, Good food though.</p>
<p>Wow, you don't know anything, do you duke3d4? Don't judge a place if you've never been there before or done any research.</p>
<p>my S has admission to UCB, UCLA, UCSD and USC full ride scholarship. He does not like these schools, more leaning towards ivies. But if these ivies are not necessarily better in bio than, say,Berkeley, why do we spend big bucks to go there just for the names???</p>
<p>eziest to get in: true
loses every yield battle with other ivies: true
has suicides: true
ithaca sucks: true
backstabbing: up for grabs
good food: up for grabs</p>
<p>Ivy name means a lot to some ppl but you have to face the facts.</p>
<p>Easiest to get in: true, but by a very small margin. Cornell's acceptance rate is 21%. By contrast, Penn's this year should be about 18% (assuming similar yield as last year and same class size), which, while lower, doesn't mean Cornell is much easier to get into. BTW, what is Dukes?
Loses every yield battle with other ivies: Give me proof of this. Besides, many people apply only to Cornell because it is so different from the other Ivies.
Has suicides: not more than other schools, so false.
Ithaca sucks: its all a matter of opinion; and it obviously doesn't suck too much or 20,000 students wouldn't be here.
Backstabbing: not in my experience nor in the experience of any of the other Cornellians I've talked to.
Good food: while irrelevant (you can find good food if you search for it anywhere, IMO), I think it's better than the average college's food.</p>
<p>I don't care much about the Ivy name. All the Ivy league is is a collection of schools that happen to be good. Coorelation does not imply causation. Choose Cornell because you like Cornell, not because it's part of the Ivy League (unless you really want to play in our sports conference).</p>
<p>If you aren't sure Brown is your first choice, then it probably isn't.</p>
<p>duke, I've seen you on three or four different threads criticizing Cornell. What's the deal? </p>
<p>Easiest to get into: sure, 21% acceptance rate, 2 percentage points below Penn. Besides it's the biggest so it's going to have a little bit higher rate. CAS acceptance is supposedly around 16% this year, which is pretty good considering size.<br>
Loses to other Ivies: Not always true. I have two friends choosing Cornell over Brown and Penn. I have a friend last year who chose Cornell over Stanford.<br>
Suicides: only 4.3 out of every 100,000. That's below the natl. average and the average at peer colleges like MIT.
Ithaca sucks: it's not the best, but Cornell is a city in itself.
Food: it's good, but who cares?</p>
<p>gang rapes: none</p>
<p>Nobody here is criticizing Duke, so why are you trolling Cornell?</p>
<p>I thought I might intervene.
<a href="http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000339.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000339.pdf</a>
This is just yield but it seems Dartmouth/Cornell are at the bottom.</p>
<p>IM NOT TROLLING at all. It just makes me mad when schools like Cornell benefit off the Ivy name when nonIvies like Duke/Stanford/MIT are much better.</p>
<p>Chill out. Duke/Stanford/MIT get just as much, if not more, attention than Cornell. They're all top schools, and all of them will basically get you anywhere you want.</p>
<p>I'm sorry but much as Cornell's campus is beautiful, I think Ithaca is bad too... (my bro who attends is hating it too) Food is good though</p>
<p>I like Ithaca. It's a good college town- also has Ithaca College. There are plenty of good places to eat, bars etc. Cornell is huge and has lots to do on campus. It is a great campus and the suicide thing is not true.</p>
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<p>It just makes me mad when schools like Duke benefit from an increased number of applications just because it's a popular sports school when academically it isn't any better.</p>
<p>See, I can make unsubstantiated statements as well.</p>
<p>tough luck that Cornell got picked to be in a sports league. I wonder if somebody who doesn't know the true definition of the ivy league really deserves to be in on of its schools in the first place. </p>
<p>eziest to get in: 21% vs. Duke's 19%. Shocking difference.
loses every yield battle with other ivies: true, but wins it vs. duke ;)
has suicides: not like you think. way to do research before making a bonehead comment
ithaca sucks: far from it! It's a town of 40,000 people who cater to Cornell university college students. Ithaca also has more restaurants per capita than any other city in the US. Ithaca > Durham when it comes to college students.
backstabbing: are you retarded?
good food: according to princeton review, #4 in the nation.</p>
<p>Cornell has the largest freshman class to fill so it has to admit more. Also some preference to NY in-state applicants for the several NY land-grant schools. And it has the largest engineering dept in the Ivy league with many self-selected students - that also drive the admission rate up. Similarly, Cal Tech admits about 40%, but no one says its easy to get into because only the serious (also no social life) need apply.</p>