<p>How did you delete that and get it down here? W T F?</p>
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<p>Girls are generally shallower than they think they are. If you're different than the majority Coqu(I seriously doubt it), then more power to you.
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<p>wow, so girls wanting an autograph = love...if you say so. your idea of love is pretty messed up. i don't see how your story supports the fact that money buys love at all. you basically just made the connection that money and fame buys attention. congratulations. and i'm sure if guys saw pamela anderson in the mall, they'd be running too.</p>
<p>and i've actually seen, met, and practiced with andy roddick's brother's at many of my tennis tournaments. i almost ended up joining his brother's academy in tx. anyway, i would never be running towards roddick for a signature. i'd ask him of course, but trust me i'm not that shallow that i'd be screaming and crying. and since when do some girls at the mall represent the whole female race? maybe you just want to believe women are that shallow so you can buy your wife, instead of actually having to love her back...god forbid.</p>
<p>Money, then you'll be able to weed out the posers from the sinceres, and if your still not completely sure, there's always a pre-nup.</p>
<p>Uhhh, coqui, I was just mentioning that human beings tend to be shallow as a whole, thats our nature. Being rich isn't mutually exclusive to everything else dear. The majority of rich people enjoy happy married lives with kids in addition to wealth. The cases of a rich guy living by himself for his whole life are rare. Furthermore, many rich men that I have met are very modest and amiable. Chances are that a rich man will be a better husband than the poor guy you fall in love with since the reason the rich guy is probably wealthy is because he is hard-workinng and motivated. The majority of rich men have numerous redeeming qualities that would make any future spouse a very lucky woman. Don't let some male chauvinistic pig who is portrayed in the media like Donald Trump corrup your immature mind about the personality of rich gentlemen.</p>
<p>God, people like you are such hypocrites. You claim not to be shallow but you want to just "fall in love" with the next ordinary and fake Prince Charming you see. There's no such thing as love at first sight. Love takes time to develop and ideally occurs after marriage, not before. Love is based on eyars of mutual understanding, not just instant passion. I don't see how you can fall in love instantly with a man you go to the movies, restaurants, and sleep with a couple of times. It seems that celebrian and you have been watching too much "Sex In The City" for your own good.</p>
<p>There are way too many 18-year old retards in this country that think that they are in love and end up ruining their lives. Instead of getting a proper education and finishing their college educations, so many teenagers just get married prematurely and end up having to work 10-hour shifts at Burger King to make a living. How long do you think your spouse is going to stay with you then??? There is a reason why divorce rates are so high in the United States.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope all you eccentric "love-seeking" girls have a happy, future life raising 3 children in your boken-down trailer with your unambitious husband who lives on welfare checks.</p>
<p>I will meanwhile be cruising down your street in my Ferrari, on my way home to my 8,000 square foot mansion to see my practical wife and my 4 adorable kids after a long day of executive board meetings.</p>
<p>Who needs money if you have love right Coqui???</p>
<p>Whatever, I'm officially done with this discussion.</p>
<p>I agree love doesn't happen at first sight...but for me ideally in my own mind personally..love should occur before the marriage..</p>
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<p>I will meanwhile be cruising down your street in my Ferrari, on my way home to my 8,000 square foot mansion to see my practical wife and my 4 adorable kids after a long day of executive board meetings.
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<p>I hope you have a happy life with your "practical" wife with no romantic passion, because it seems to me that you think passion only complicates things. Ambitious men can also believe in love. I'm not "love-seeking", because I've already found love (and I do not plan on getting married at 18), and when I'm a famous actress and you are the CEO of some company, guess who will be sucking up to who in order to gain more influence in the world of entertainment. I know it won't be me...yeah, you aren't the only one who can make subtle and mean scenarios to prove your point.</p>
<p>Yes, there are rich men who are "modest and amiable"..but atleast they respect the people who believe in love instead of insulting the people who believe in love. If it makes me a fool to believe in love, then so be it, but atleast respect my view, no matter how much you disagree with it. I respect your view and I don't think you are hypocrite in your opinion on love; I cannot and will not attempt to change your views because chances are that you aren't going to change your views anytime soon. You can still get a college education and be successful while being in love. It's people like you who are the hypocrites because you feel the need to trample on people's idealistic beliefs and views by calling them "hypocrites" just because they believe in something that you don't believe. By the way, people who aren't rich can still live happy lives.</p>
<p>Here's another scenario for you...celebrian and coqui will end up being your superiors and you will have to end up taking orders from them or they will somehow end up influencing your career, because they had also found success in their own way. They will live their successful lives with the men they love, adorable children (if they choose to have any children), and a mansion even bigger than yours. Meanwhile, you will be living in a " 8,000 square foot mansion [with your] practical wife and [your] 4 adorable kids" not experiencing ever falling head-over-heals in love or feeling any passion (lust is not passion by the way) for your "practical wife" (assuming your practical wife shares the same views about love as you do). </p>
<p>But, who needs money when you have "practical" love ...right ThE<em>GuRl</em>NeXt_DoOr????</p>
<p>love...most definately</p>
<p>for the record...money doesn't buy love...money buys things you love but not LOVE.....it'll buy ungrateful gold-diggers, insincere lovers, spoiled children who just want more, and loads of hassles you wish you never had.....and in the end...you'll wish you had that happiness that only one person could ever bring you........you can have all the women in the world, but there's only one that'll really make you smile like you've never smiled before....I may not have experienced true love yet, but I do love my girlfriend, and she absolutely rocks my world....both of our parents are fairly well off, we live comfortable lives with the things we need and a few extra commodities...but even if i was in rags...i'd be happy to have her with me, because she makes any dim situation hopeful...you can find people who'll love you for your money....but you can only find a very select few who'd stay with you if you didn't have it....who'd stick by you if you decided to live the humble lifestyle....that's what love is...it's not about how many girls wanna get in your pants or how good they look....you stereotype guys as shallow?...find one who really cares for a person, and then tell me the same thing....you can have all the cars, the huge house, the designer clothing, the private jets...but it's all pointless unless you have someone to share it with.....someone who'd be with you to share it, but would stay with you if all you had to share was a meager income and a small home..or no home at all....it's usually those ppl who have never really experienced love who speak like you do.....just wait.....wait til you find someone who doesn't appreciate THE best...but appreciates YOUR best..</p>
<p>furthermore...when you find love there's no reason to rush things.....someone who loves you is willing to take the time to make things work for the absolute best....</p>
<p>To nahrafsfa: I concur and I could not have said it any more better...</p>
<p>nahrafsafa- Being rich doesn't mean you will have spoiled children. Spoiled children come from bad parenting. </p>
<p>As for money or true love, I'll take whichever comes first. First come, first serve.</p>
<p>why does everything on CC become a pointless debate?</p>
<p>I think the same thing funkyfunnybunny. There's a difference between having a discussion about it, and having a huge pointless debate on it. :p</p>
<p>Hah the assumptions on this thread are quite riveting!!! So basically what you are saying thesiren72102 is that if I marry a practical and intelligent wife, there won't be any passion in our lives??? that has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. My parents don't bang the snot out of each other everyday or buy each other expensive gifts, but they sure as hell love each other. I know for a fact that even if the worst possible argument ever broke out between my parents over whatever issue, they would never split up over it because they care about the welfare of my sister and me. That is true love and understanding.</p>
<p>Yeah, I'm not saying that coqui and celebrian won't live happy and fulfilling lives. All I'm saying is that if that their whole relationship with their spouse is based on "heads-over-heel" passion, then it won't last long when the harsh realities of life hit them face first. You see, there are some real charming guys out there who are prone to make girl fall in love with them, yet they are unambitious and lazy. Then as a result, they won't make any money, be good fathers, or be supporting of their wives at all. Thus, in the end, Coqui and Celebrian will just end up destitute with a broken heart. Also, their kids will also live wretched lives due to the lack of responsibility of their negligent father.</p>
<p>Look, you seem to think that I'm just some nerdy guy driven wholly by the prospect of wealth. On the contrary, I love partying and hooking up with girls in high school, and I will probably continue in college. Trust me, I am pretty sure I will have my share of "unbridled passion and spontaneous fun" before marriage. However, once I'm finally like 30, have finished my graduate education, and have a respectable job: I will be looking for a practical, sensible, intelligent, and caring woman to settle down finally lin life with. Hopefully, mutual understanding and love will eventually develop between us. However, I think that aspect of a relationship should never be the first priority for anyone assessing a future spouse. You have to think of life beyond the bedroom LOL.</p>
<p>I apologize to anyone(especially coqui, celebrian, and the siren72102) who were made upset by my remarks which came off as skeptical at best. I really hope you girls have fabulous family lives with someone you are madly in love with. I know you girls are academically motivated since you are on CC, so just make sure you make "sensible and good" choices at least when choosing your spouse.:):):)</p>
<p>I guess I wasn't doen with this discussion after all.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents, peace.</p>
<p>well...not really spoiled an such...but if you're in the 7 figures, your children will be used to having the best of everything, and tend to be less modest than average...</p>
<p>I would choose love. If you had all that money and no love, what would you spend it doing? You'd get quite bored after a while, I'd imagine.</p>
<p>You should spend it pampering Zante LOL.</p>
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<p>i dont believe i ever said there was love at first sight. i to think that's not true. but how can love IDEALLY occur after marriage. so you want to get married to someone you don't love first and then be forced to love them over "years of mutual understanding"? sounds fun. but i'd rather be in love BEFORE i get married. and to me marriage shouldn't be the reason people learn to love each other. if two people honestly love each other, they don't need a legal (or religious) bond to make it "official".</p>
<p>and why do you keep confusing everything? i don't know where you got the notion that i think i can "instantly" fall in love. i just said i'd choose love over a seven figure income. and there are plentyl of "hard working" men out there who make less than $100,000 a year. i never knew that making $50,000 a year was dirt poor.</p>
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There are way too many 18-year old retards in this country that think that they are in love and end up ruining their lives. Instead of getting a proper education and finishing their college educations, so many teenagers just get married prematurely and end up having to work 10-hour shifts at Burger King to make a living. How long do you think your spouse is going to stay with you then??? There is a reason why divorce rates are so high in the United States.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope all you eccentric "love-seeking" girls have a happy, future life raising 3 children in your boken-down trailer with your unambitious husband who lives on welfare checks.</p>
<p>I will meanwhile be cruising down your street in my Ferrari, on my way home to my 8,000 square foot mansion to see my practical wife and my 4 adorable kids after a long day of executive board meetings.</p>
<p>Who needs money if you have love right Coqui???
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<p>again, where did you get the notion that people that fall in love are only the poor? i just wouldn't pick a 7 figure income over love. doesn't mean i'm taking poverty over the 7 figure income. what if i fall in love with the future president? presidents don't make a 7 figure income. or a teacher, they dont make a 7 figure income. how do you know your practical wife won't become an alcoholic, or that you'll cheat on her with your secretary, or that your kids will commit suicide? money can't assure these things won't happen, and at times they can even make it more probable. there are A LOT of rich people that have gotten divorced, a lot. and if money buys love and happiness, why would this happen and why would rich people also become drug addicts and such, just like those "welfare" people you speak of.</p>
<p>just accept the fact that a 7 figure income can't replace true love. the question isn't 7 figure income vs poverty, so just remember that.</p>
<p>LOL money...I'm not going to marry a bum of the street thats for sure...if he has a 6 figure income..then I'll go for love lol</p>
<p>I know I'd go for love.</p>
<p>Isn't it everyone's goal to provide their children with the "best of everything"? Modesty doesnt mean you have to live off the street working 14 hour work days when you are 5 and a half earning a living for your parents. Modesty is to be grateful for what one has and not to discriminate against others who may have less.
Its not nice to generalise even though you are an idealistic lover. This is coming from me, a cold hearted guy incapable of love because his heart is taken over by the greed of money. ;)</p>
<p>lol..you are forgiven, ThE<em>GuRl</em>NeXt_DoOr, and I'm sorry if I came off as a little bit harsh in my posts. There are lots of and many types of practical and intelligent women out there. I just thought you meant the practical and intelligent women who are so single minded in achieving their goals, that they cannot find it in theirselves to muster up love,compassion, or passion for their husbands and children, because by the end of the day after a long hard day at work they are too tired to do so...(believe me there are women out there who are like that)..</p>