<p>I think the fact that the professor has said he would never do it again indicates he made a mistake in thinking that just because some students were interested in seeing a live sex show, meant that it was a worthwhile activity to hold in the university classroom.</p>
<p>^^^I think he said he will never do it again because he is in hot water with his dean and with university administrators. While having tenure generally protects the job itself, course assignments, discretionary raises, committee assignments, recommendations for honorary titles, etc. are not protected rights. He knows he made a mistake, but he doesn’t think he was wrong.</p>
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<p>I’m proud of what you did too, Hanna. I think that de-mystifying mental illnesses is the key to helping people understand that they are just one form of a whole range of illnesses to which we all can be susceptible, through no fault of our own.</p>
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<p>Ethical guidelines for mental health professionals prohibit them doing anything that is not in the interests of the well-being of the research subject or patient. If your therapist or a psychology professor at a major university knowingly encouraged you to speak publicly before you were well enough, or intentionally put you in a position where you would experience a panic attack, that would be wrong and exploitive on <em>their</em> part, regardless of whether or not you are considered competent enough to make your own decisions.</p>
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<p>In other words, things that hardly matter at all.</p>
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<p>Like she could outdo Meg Ryan fully clothed?</p>
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<p>I know an ER doctor who had to extract one of the poor little critters. I had asked how it had got into the patients cavity, and he said it involved the attachment tubing from a vacuum cleaner. :eek: I was more disturbed with the fact that the teeth and claws from the poor little hamsters had been removed before the act.</p>
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<p>Really? Well, if the committee that is charged with revising course offerings decides to eliminate his course, or the committee that decides on teaching assignments gives this course to another professor, that might matter to him.</p>
<p>Sometimes the ‘honorary titles’ I referred to are accompanied by large annual stipends. Furthermore, professors who bring in outside money are usually very happy to attach such titles to their grant proposals. Of course, maybe this guy doesn’t care at all about his salary, or bring in any research money. Maybe he is just basically deadweight already, so these things matter not to him. I don’t care enough about him to look any of it up.</p>
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<p>Bingo. Even in the first correspondence, he said he was in trouble with his dean and he doesn’t like to be in trouble with his dean. Which shows that he has some form of loyalty towards the university and he recognized what he did had the potential to tarnish the brand.</p>
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<p>I love the end of that scene where a women tells the waiter, “I’ll have what she’s having.”</p>
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<p>Isn’t there a law against cruelty to animals? I would have liked to see this fellow explaining himself to a judge…</p>
<p>“I am saving this article for when people say that Oberlin is a bit too liberal or off-the-wall.”</p>
<p>Yeah, me too, except for me it is when they say it about Brown!</p>
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I certainly don’t feel that someone with a mental illness can’t be a great teacher to the general population (and I am sorry if my post made you feel that way).</p>
<p>GA2012Mom, I don’t care what your friend said about extracting gerbils or hamsters or whatever, it’s almost certainly baloney, and I have very little doubt that he made it up. Find me an article in a medical journal that says this is an actual sexual practice; then maybe I’ll believe you. Until then, no. I remain convinced that it’s an urban legend based on flagrant homophobia. Which people are willing to believe about gay men <em>because</em> of societal homophobia. (Or personal homophobia, as the case may be.) By the way: removing the teeth and claws? Yeah, right. You think they take it to an unscrupulous gay vet? Perform the surgery themselves? Give me a break; how gullible can anyone be? </p>
<p>See Snopes’s article on the subject: [snopes.com:</a> Richard Gere and Gerbil](<a href=“http://www.snopes.com/risque/homosex/gerbil.asp]snopes.com:”>Richard Gere and the Gerbil | Snopes.com)</p>
<p>Wow, Sorry DonnaL, I don’t have any documentation, only what my friend told me. I have no reason to think he was making this up. This was at an ER in Long Beach, CA.</p>
<p>BTW, my doc friend is gay, I’m 100% sure he did NOT make this up. Personally, I don’t care if any person is into saws, gerbils, or anything else. I was simply telling what I was told from a very reliable source.</p>
<p>The whole gerbil/hamster up the rectum is more then likely urban myth. People have attempted to track this one down, they have interviewed scores of doctors, scoured the internet and so forth, and no one has been able to come up with a documented account of this happening. They talked to hospital workers in places like NYC and San Francisco, they looked at records, and no one could come up with a verifiable claim, and believe me people followed through, supposedly people have done doctoral work on sexuality and couldn’t find any accounts documentable. The fact that no one has been able to document a first hand account is amazing, that the tale is a friend or someone the friend knows, etc. Personally, having lived my life in the NYC area, had friends who worked emergency squads, known doctors and nurses from NYC ER rooms, and has a lot of gay friends and acquaintances I have never heard such a story other then told as myth, and tell plenty of weird tales I suspect are true. If this were true, it would be written up in a medical journal and probably journals of sexuality research, and none has either. </p>
<p>There are all kinds of stories about things lost in areas no reason to talk about out there that have been documented, that doesn’t surprise me, but the gerbil or whatever is probably an urban myth. What makes me think even more so is that the tale of the story is always the same, same detail, down to the claws and teeth being removed, the detail of the kind of tube used to get it in there and so forth, with amazing detail. There are problems with the story,too, that the animal would die pretty quickly so the tales of having it move around and such for a protracted time, part of the myth, is unlikely.</p>
<p>As for your friend being a reliable witness, ever hear of the fish story, where on telling the one getting away gets bigger and bigger? More then likely your friend was telling the myth to impress you about the crazy things that go on in an er and the fact that he was gay doesn’t change that one way or the other, I have heard plenty of whoppers about sexual practices of straight people told by straight people (or whom I assume were straight), the point is someone is trying to impress.</p>
<p>I also agree with Donna on that one, it is a myth that is homophobic because in the telling it is always about a gay male with the usual tag line “that shows you how perverted gay men are”. Put it this way, if there is any truth to it, there should be a lot out there, because if that really does cause such a great feeling, it wouldn’t be limited to gay men, highly unlikely. Sexual play involving around that part of the body is not uncommon among all sexually active people, gay or straight,it is loaded with nerve endings, so the fact that the tale as told seems always to be gay men says a lot, as it intersects with a)gay men and b)bestiality which to most people is a major taboo (other then state legislators that wrote clauses in their sodomy statutes that made gay sex illegal but exempted farm animals, and in Texas said law was written in the 90’s). I wonder if someone told a story about this with straight people if it would gain much traction, I doubt it. I’ll believe it when someone can cite a credible source beyond what someone claimed.</p>
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<p>Thank you DonnaL for clarifying that about the gerbils. I followed the Snopes link and found a related link that informed me that rumors about Jamie Lee Curtis are probably also an urban legend. Not that it would make one difference to me what she is.</p>
<p>About the Harry-met-Sally scene, I thought it was okay, but overly hyped. Come on, actresses fake orgasms in all movie sex scenes, this time the only difference was she was sitting in a cafe. Big deal.</p>
<p>I think it is still pretty insensitive and inexcusable for a man to not notice that the woman he’s actually having sex with is faking an orgasm.</p>
<p>Sorry, GA2012mom, I didn’t mean to get so annoyed; it’s just that I’ve heard these silly stories for probably 25 or 30 years now, and I guess I’m really tired of them at this point. According to the Snopes article, there are lots of people who’ve claimed to have personally witnessed such incidents, but there’s never been a single documented case. (And it’s not like I haven’t heard gay men tell some incredibly gross stories that couldn’t possibly be true – way worse than gerbils! – for the shock value.)</p>
<p>And I was told, many, many, MANY years ago, from a relative who is an endocrinologist with the FDA, that Jamie and her sister Kelly Curtis have Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. But, I have no way of knowing how or where they got this information. It is really none of our business, though people with different disorders often appreciate it when a well-known person is willing to be a spokesperson.</p>