<p>I'd like approach a slightly provacative subject.</p>
<p>Without being explicit (remember parents and grandparents are on this board), describe your sexual attitudes.</p>
<p>Are you the type of person who will jump in bed with the first available, functioning member of the opposite (or same) sex. Or do you prefer to wait six months? a year? until marriage?</p>
<p>Are you accepting of homosexuality? Could you have a gay roomate?</p>
<p>What about interracial dating?</p>
<p>I'm interested to hear some of your thoughts.</p>
<p>Again, do try and discuss this issue with some maturity, I don't want some principal to come on here and think we are a bunch of pervs.</p>
<p>Well, I'm not at Dartmouth (yet), but I think college is a time for experimenting. As long as you're responsible and both parties have the same understanding, then do whatever you like. No problems with homosexuals or interracial dating as long as it's not just some kind Asian fetish.</p>
<p>People who believe that you <em>have</em> to be in love to have sex seem naive to me. It's true, being in love and having sex can be rewarding (maybe more so than just sex), but they're two separate things. Sex is physical- by definition. Love is not- by definition. Just like something silly like sending a funny card to a guy/girl can be either an act of love or just a token of friendship, so can sex. But they're not the same.</p>
<p>I don't want some principal to come on here and think we are a bunch of pervs.</p>
<p>Man, I haven't heard anyone say "perv" in a long time. </p>
<p>Concerning this topic, I will say that you have to be careful these days about being a whore and such. I have friends at Stanford, UC Berkeley and other UC's like Santa Barbara (by the way, UC Santa Barbara has one of the highest STD rates in the US) that warn me to watch who you hook up with. One of my friends put it nicely by saying "Just because they're book smart don't mean they don't got something!". Don't assume that smart kids will be less likely to get God knows what because STD's don't discriminate. </p>
<p>With that said, who can really say who they're gonna to hook up with? I bet that people will be hooking up at Dimensions (probably even some people on this board!). The discussions between prospective students will be about more than just college at bedtime (assuming people stay in their beds and actually go to sleep:))))).</p>
<p>raspberry smoothie-- i kind of disagree. An important part of love is the physical-- I think physical and mental addiction go hand in hand when it comes to love.</p>
<p>which is why I think not having sex til marriage is a bad idea, not knowing about your partner's "ability".</p>
<p>Babybird, I guess I wasn't clear about my thoughts. I meant that to have (fulfilling) sex, love does not have to be involved. To be in love, I guess you could say there has to be a sexual attraction.</p>
<p>anyway, we've been trying to figure out whether our generation is that much different from previous generations, and if so, why. we haven't reached any sort of decisions, but all i know is that cases like the milton case scare me. i'm not hugely opposed to random hookups, but i definitely draw a line somewhere, and its well before this.</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but at my public school, oral sex doesn't even make the school paper. But then again, Milton owns the dorms, so I guess oral on school property is no good. But still, I think Milton's response was a little bit harsh.</p>
<p>Getting caught in a Monica moment is embarrassing enough.</p>
<p>I'm very open-minded to people's choice of sexuality even if I don't agree with it. Heck I grew up with a lesbian aunt all my life! As for the sex thing, it's my own personal belief that you should wait until your married, but this has to do alot with my religion and how I was raised, so that's my $0.02.</p>
<p>Okay skyandsea, there's a big difference between two consensual twenty-year-olds hooking up and an inexperienced 15-year-old giving oral sex to five hockey players. In the first, (hopefully) both people know exactly the implications of the hook-up and are mature enough to take responsibility. In the second, it reeks of some kind of high school pressure taking advangtage of a young girl. It's not the same.</p>
<p>Personally, I am always hanging out with girls and going on dates, but I just haven't done any serious sexual activities. College is a whole different ball game than high school. There are so many high schoolers that push their friends in to doing sexual acts just to become more experienced. I think it's horrible. As Raspberry said,college kids hopefully know the implications of hooking up. Ideally, it would be amazing to save myself for marriage, but that's just no happening lol. It's good to experiment so that your partner knows she can be physically attracted to you throughout her life. I don't care what people say. Physical attraction is very important. A healthy relationship needs a balance between intellectual and physical attraction.</p>
<p>rasberry smoothie- i definitely agree that there's a difference. i didn't mean to imply that there was- its just that we've been discussing those cases in class (human pursuit of euphoria= drugs and sex class = greatest class ever), and so its the first thing that comes to mind. sorry.
i think what i meant to say is that what used to be acceptable for college students is now acceptable (or closer to acceptable) for high school students. and younger. and that scares me.</p>
<p>"lol! i thought you were referring to Jesus Christ" Calidan! I love you.</p>
<p>We've also been talking about this in health lately, mostly because we were watching a Katie Couric video about "hook-ups and friends with benefits", something it seems parents have only recently discovered. I mean seriously - our health teacher told us that she went to a health teachers' workshop entitled "Oral Sex: THE NEW THIRD BASE". Not kidding. Apparently she went because of a problem with 8th grade girls at our schools that had founded "The BJ Club" (self-explanatory, I hope). There were some girls who were like "If you perform oral sex on a guy, you're not a virgin anymore," and my entire health class ridiculed them. I was surprised, therefore, to see JCOliver say that he went on dates - dates are nonexistent at our school. People hang out and hook up - any other terms are unacceptable, because they imply commitment, which may lead to rejection and trauma.</p>
<p>I've seen many cases where the physical aspect is virtually the only thing that separates a boyfriend-type person from a regular friend. I think in this day and age, with people getting married so late in life, it's not realistic to remain celibate until marriage, though I do not condemn people who practice this. I do know a few people, very devout, who refuse to HUG members of the opposite sex until marriage - this of course precludes kissing and any physical form of affection whatsoever. I think this is WAY too extreme - but I realize that they have the right to do what they want and won't try to convince them otherwise. Likewise, I'm not the type who is going to have no-strings-attached sex 24/7, but it's not my place to judge what other people do (hopefully) in the privacy of their own bedrooms. But I think that as long as people stay safe and responsible, they can do what they please and deal with whatever emotional effect this has on them.</p>
<p>Btw, I'm totally fine with homosexuality - it's just the way people are born, like with a certain hair color or nationality. I have a bunch of gay friends and really respect that they can be honest with themselves and everyone around them - i know, in some cases, how hard it was for them. And besides, I once got lost at a gay pride festival in Switzerland. How could i NOT love gay people after that? They gave me what is possibly the funniest story of my life haha</p>
<p>The school's actions sound appropriate, although we don't have the embarassing details behind the decision. I hope the DA presses the stat. rape charges; the law's the law. </p>
<p>As for college hook-ups, I think it's unfortunate that a record percentage of our generation has no quips about hooking up after knowing the partner for barely a day. Given the overall constant trend toward sexual promiscuity, what can we expect of the next? Even if a good majority of our generation becomes more conservative as it grows up (also a pretty consistent trend with other generations), many will feel hypocritical forbidding their kids the same immoral behavior they once engaged in.</p>
<p>Anyway, this was supposed to be about DARTMOUTH. The way it looks now, it belongs in the cafe.</p>