<p>Anyone please comment on:</p>
<li>The Environment At SFS</li>
<li>How it compares to college</li>
<li>How intense/competitive it is</li>
<li>Rigor</li>
<li>Social Life</li>
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<p>bump please</p>
<p>I don't know if it answers any, but I heard SFS has a very rigid and structured curriculum which is definitely personal preference.</p>
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<li><p>It's kinda hard for me to picture a real SFS environment just because the situations in which you'll be in an SFS-only setting are fairly limited (Map, PST, Prosem, maybe a few others). Generally speaking though, people in the SFS come in all different flavors, just like any other place. The one common feature is that they're all smart. I've yet to meet someone in the SFS where, afterwards, I thought to myself "Wow that guy's a frickin' idiot."</p></li>
<li><p>SFS is more elitist and, because of the SFS reqs, you tend to see more of the same people in your classes. Plus, of course, the SFS is smaller. So there's definitely more of a feeling of connection than exists in the college.</p></li>
<li><p>Depends on the path you follow. The SFS core stuff is pretty competitive though: SFS kids are all used to getting As and when you have a bunch of them in a intro econ class where only 25% can get an A or A-, there'll definitely be some competition.</p></li>
<li><p>Same thing, depends on your choices. There's major classes that will have you begging for mercy (Hrebenak's class on the military instrument of national power comes to mind) and there's classes for CULP that involve discussing Latin American butterflies (kidding, I think). It's pretty hard to breeze your way through the SFS, but much of it is in your hands.</p></li>
<li><p>Uhhh...we have better taste than most of the other schools? Really this varies by person. Unless it's the day before the MAP exam, your social life is entirely dependent on what kind of person you are, rather than the school. That pretty much ends in any form once you take off the purple-corded NSO nametag.</p></li>
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<p>SFS is awesome.</p>
<p>However, I do know several people who are transferring out because the curriculum in the College allows for more exploration and experimentation with regards to subjects/classes.</p>
<p>In the SFS you have pretty much your first two years (save any AP credit you might have) planned out down to the exact class. You may get to pick one Theology and one Philosophy class (wooooo) and your regions for history, but that's about it.</p>
<p>The SFS also has many joys that the College doesn't have, such as Political Social Thought (amazing class) Map of the Modern World (interesting, though I've heard Pirtle was awesome and so far Hrebrenak has been a perfect example of military efficiency) and the Freshmen Proseminar (just hope you get one you're interested in. And even if you don't, you'll still have a great time).</p>
<p>You can't choose proseminars?</p>
<p>How many classes can you take? (in regards to the rigid curriculum) I know that most people in uni take 4-5, but my friend at columbia took 7 last semester...</p>
<p>Did you try testing out of Map of the Modern World? Do you know anyone who has? Is it virtually impossible, or can you do it with the proper amount of studying?</p>
<p>It's not impossible, but honestly, why would you want to? The class is so informative.</p>
<p>You can choose proseminars, but if God hates you (which he apparently hates me, heathens!) </p>
<p>Um, I don't think you're allowed to take 7 because that's 21 credits so I think you'd have to pay extra if you're even allowed. I think we can take up to 18 or 20 credits with our full time tuition, but I don't know.</p>
<p>Being able to do such a thing is fairly difficult. Just because there are so many classes offered at x times a day, and also because you really wouldn't want to take that many. There is a lot of reading and independent work. This is not high school.</p>
<p>This year I believe between 3-5 people in the entire SFS tested out of Map in the entire SFS. It has been that number for a long time (I think Dean Murphy said 8 years, it could be that +/-). It is very, very difficut. Do you know what the Guerra de Futbol was? Did you know that Panama belonged to Colombia? Can you name all of the sovereign territories and special dependencies? Can you name all the islands in the Carribean that are part of the French Overseas Department? If not, you probably will not test out of Map.</p>
<p>I wouldn't go out of my way to study for it. Either you took a class on geography and know all that random stuff, or you take Map. The amount of work that Map adds to your daily life is negligible. Plus, it's an SFS tradition to enjoy Map with your comrades!</p>
<p>just wondering about the course number because i'm interested in languages.. i want to continue chinese AND study arabic, but i heard that it's almost impossible to do if you're taking 5 courses a semester because of sfs requirements and stuff.</p>
<p>I believe that Georgetown really discourages people from taking two languages because of the excessive time commitment. I'll try to find where I read that.</p>
<p>I'm pretty solid at French. Would it be manageable/possible to take the proficiency exam in French right when I would get to Gtown then start a new language?</p>
<p>Are you taking the AP Exam, because <em>I think</em> a 4 or 5 will get you out of the requirement</p>
<p>Yes, I am, and I will hopefully get a 4 or 5. </p>
<p>So are you saying that if I do well on the AP I don't have to take the proficiency exam?</p>
<p>That was what I though I read.
Go to AP Central online and look up georgetown. they' have a list</p>
<p>My understanding is that with an AP test you are allowed to place into the 102-level language courses, which are the "Advanced II" level classes that are a prerequisite to taking the proficiency exam. I don't think an AP exam gets you out of the proficiency exam.</p>
<p><a href="http://www3.georgetown.edu/sfs/bsfs/core/proficiency.html%5B/url%5D">http://www3.georgetown.edu/sfs/bsfs/core/proficiency.html</a>
<a href="http://www3.georgetown.edu/sfs/bsfs/core/credits/ap.html%5B/url%5D">http://www3.georgetown.edu/sfs/bsfs/core/credits/ap.html</a></p>
<p>sheetmusic-thanks for that link on taking 2 languages! i am studying spanish but i REALLY want to also start to study chinese or arabic (i applied sfs). hopefully i can make it work, i don't know though!!!</p>
<p>Estrella,</p>
<p>Same here, I really want to take Chinese/Arabic/Japanese and German. I really hope that I can take two languages, because I am solid with French already. Coming out of college with English, German, French, and Chinese would be amazing.</p>
<p>Is it possible to study 2 languages in the business school? I'm practically fluent in spanish (I've taken 5+ years of it and completed the program at my school) and I'm in AP French Language. Do you think I'd be able to possibly double minor in 2 languages along with a major in international business or would that be impossible?</p>