<p>Today one of my professors told me about her daughter, who was offered a full ride at Pratt a few years ago! She also got several near-full packages from other schools. She’s now a grad student at Parsons. </p>
<p>So it happens! :-)</p>
<p>Jerzgrlmom
Was it academic merit or artistic or combined?
If academic, how come state offered none? Is it one of THOSE states’?</p>
<p>Trin, let it be clear, full ride = no EFC, not only full tuition? what is her major? Pratt->Parsons is a bit odd progress.</p>
<p>Bears: She didn’t go to Pratt. She was offered a full ride, but turned it down to take another generous package in Boston. After a year, she transfered Parsons for undergrad (had previously been accepted there but didn’t initially attend) and has stayed there for grad school. I don’t feel comfortable providing details, because it would include personal info, but my understanding is that she initially did not want to be in NYC, but later decided that it was the right choice for her. </p>
<p>I doubt she was EFC=0 FAFSA-wise, my understanding is that the full money – which was tuition/room/board/expenses – was at least partially merit.</p>
<p>I go to an arts high school where they shove this stuff down our throats, so I will relay as much as I can:</p>
<p>If your child is more conceptual (and since she went to SAIC ECP I am assuming she is), SMFA is known for giving good money.</p>
<p>SAIC likes to give money away, but (as I’m sure you noticed with ECP) it is not too much. The most they give is half, which leaves you with another 22k to pay :/</p>
<p>MICA, from my experience, also gives great money, and is overall a decent school. Better than decent actually, but it’s no SMFA or SAIC…</p>
<p>I would agree with what somebody mentioned earlier, MassArt is a dark horse in terms of art schools, but they’ve got themselves a pretty solid program. And since it’s in Boston you can cross register for courses at SMFA. They are cheap to begin with, and with scholarship you probably wouldn’t be paying too much</p>
<p>And lastly, Cooper is, as you mentioned, free for only tuition. But she can always find a few students and get a place in brooklyn, that’s what most students do anyways. It’s much cheaper than housing. Of course, getting in is challenge enough, but that’s what I’d plan on doing if I were to get in next year.</p>
<p>In terms of awards, there is Scholastics, which is very difficult to get a scholarship with, especially since they are all over the place with who they choose. They are a bit unfocused. They like innovative work, but that tends to lean on the safe side. I wouldn’t count on them. NFAA Young Arts has a great scholarship program as well (3 winners from my school, one presidential scholar), but is again very difficult since you are competing against schools like HSPVA, La Guardia, Dreyfoos, DASH, New World, etc etc. but if her art is exceptional (and even if it isn’t) i would encourage her to apply, but get on that quick because I think deadlines are coming up soon.</p>
<p>hope that helps, but it is hard to determine how much art school will cost without seeing the artwork. Scholarship is almost purely determined by that (with the exception of MICA and some other schools, which award academics as well)</p>
<p>I think you can answer my questions. I am a parent, if you don’t feel like answering, that’s OK.
- Is it true or un-true that Cooper has quota for Florida magnets bunch? LaGuardia is forgiven because it’s in the city, public and very diverse. I mean THAT is the only chance rest of us have, you know, they took 70 the most this year. By looking at number of accepted / applied year-to-year, what is your opinion?
- Do you know what happened to the DASH boy who chose SMFA full-ride over Cooper last year? I was seriously going to send him a plane ticket so he can visit both schools/cities before he decide.
- I know you kids are way ahead of the game and sort of laugh at RISD Pratt approach to the art making. What happens after four or so years of college?
Are they going to grad school, job or get selling works already when you are sophomores?</p>
<p>Bears and dogs: I have no idea what the first two questions are about. As for the third, I have no idea what you mean about “laugh at RISD Pratt approach”. I don’t think my daughter has decided if she will pursue an MFA yet. My daughter already sells some kinds of work; she’s been doing commissions for several years now, for classmates, teachers, and others. She also has a sideline doing giant stencil-based art for rave events. She’s always been very entrepreneurial. On the other hand, she’s really developed a fondness lately for life drawing and portraiture.</p>
<p>No, no Trin, my bad.
I was asking those questions to the kid above I am almost sure one of those Florida magnet kids, either DASH, dreyfoos, or NW. They are in different league from rest of kids if aiming at conceptual arty arty places like Cooper, SMFA, SAIC, maybe MICA but never RISD.
Cooper is supposed to help community, it is their duty to take local kids in some proportion but in reality, they are the ones could fill up all of the Cooper seats by themselves if talent/skill/ grades only matters for admission. If you and your D had no idea, it is more for her advantage. Because that genuine passion or un finished –ness works for her favor.</p>
<p>hi yes i do go to DASH. you asked a lot i will answer as best as i can</p>
<p>first of all, there is no quota or anything for the FL kids. it is a (really strange) coincidence that we have three great art schools in the state, but there is no funny business like some people think. My best friend is at cooper right now whose work is absolutely incredible, and another one of my classmates was a presidential scholar in the arts, and my other friend from dreyfoos was a nominee. The students get in on their own merit, not through some school legacy. there just arent very many schools that teach to a contemporary curriculum over the traditional still life/figure painting curriculum in high school, but we happen to have two (not hating on NWSA, but they are generally more traditional)</p>
<p>and just to clarify, DASH send a BUNCH of kids to the RISD Pratt type schools each year, because we are actually not an art school but a design school (Design and Architecture Senior High). Rough estimate, i’d say 50% of the kids dont go on to study art, 40% study design, 10% study fine arts</p>
<p>jonathan is the DASH kid who chose SMFA over Cooper and that isn’t really that uncommon since SMFA is a very popular choice at our school (we had 10 kids at SMFA precollege, out of 70 admitted). He was very vocal and angry though because he felt too many people depend on Cooper to validate whether or not they are good artists (which many people do). He felt SMFA was a better fit for him and criticized people who only cared about getting into Cooper. I don’t know too many more details though because I was not very close with him. But to get an idea, there are about fifteen kids applying to cooper in my grade, and i think I am one of two applying Early Decision, because nobody else wants to be bound to Cooper if SMFA gives them enough money.</p>
<p>Are you a part of the livejournal community? How did you know so much about DASH and the FL schools?</p>
<p>I did not seem to answer the question about life post-college</p>
<p>I know some of my peers that went up to both cooper and parsons are landing great internships and are riding the art circles up pretty high, but we’ve yet to have a standout artist. our strength is in designers (esteban cortazar from our school was the youngest person to EVER show in NY fashion week, and is currently head designer for Ungaro, and another student deisgned the dwayne wade sneakers or something like that)</p>
<p>But as far as artists, DASH didnt join the cooper circuit until the past five or six years, so no big shots from us quite yet… I don’t know about dreyfoos or NW either</p>
<p>Oh actually, isn’t Hernan Bas from new world?</p>
<p>Hi back. I hope I did not sound creepy stalker, which I really am. I read every entry of last years livejournal because I knew few kids there in person and it was rather amusing to see what they had to say. I was really touched by Jons post and that was the only time I ever posted in there. He did get to visit Boston in the end and seems liked it enough to turn down Cooper. I have mixed feeling toward SMFA and I hate to think that if he was disillusioned in any way. Schools in NY has better air bags for egos, if I could call that precious feeling ego - that sound too shallow. I am afraid maybe, just maybe fine art kids in Florida are guided in that way because of the geography, their faculty, reps or recruiters just feed information about their pet schools?
I snuck in Cooper parents orientation the other day and almost shocked to see how naïve those folks are, and their kids are all Picassos.
I have this godmother in Florida and have seen some Dreyfoos kids works and almost peed in my pants. Scary thing is, they can do photocopy if they wanted to but went beyond that already when they are in feeder middle school.
I am Peter Cooper cult but not really for the schools conceptual business because my own training was traditional. As my kid became one of them, I learn to appreciate more of what I missed when my brain was softer.
I envy todays kids with worlds opportunity and optimism to go with.
Anyway, good luck to you. I will see you around.</p>
<p>don’t worry, i have stalked that group for years as well, and that is where I heard about jonathan’s cooper rant… not even through my school. that wasn’t something anybody really knew about outside of that community.</p>
<p>and i completely agree with the “precious feeling ego”, I think that is a very accurate description.</p>
<p>i have yet to be sold on SMFA over Cooper as well. And yes I really do hope to see you around!</p>