<p>Lol, you guys are so uptight. Who cares if they sleep in class. You are taking notes, and you are learning. If they want to see your notes for a while and copy them, what harm does that do to you? You're going to take the notes anyway, what the hell is the difference lol. Getting taken advantage of? Give me a break...it's like youre letting them borrow your virginity for 20 minutes.</p>
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Does it make anyone else uncomfortable when you're taking notes and someone next to you isn't? Like, they're not sleeping, but they're kind of giving the impression that they don't need to take notes? This really gets on my nerves.
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<p>some of the smartest curve-busters i know don't take any notes they just listen</p>
<p>"It makes me uncomfortable when the person next to me is taking frantic notes when I haven't noticed anything worth taking notes on."</p>
<p>I have kinda the same feeling... except I just think "why is this person wasting paper on this? It's not important."</p>
<p>I've watched people take copious notes during the first few days of class, writing down everything out of the professor's mouth, when the professor is giving an introduction to the course, and for every sentence he says, there will be an entire class or more of information on later.</p>
<p>I laugh to myself.</p>
<p>No kidding. I sometimes wonder if some of the other students even read out of the book. Nearly all of the information they are frantically jotting down is in there!</p>
<p>A mild warning about note-sharing: my boyfriend had a class where they formed a study group and typed up answers to the study guide the teacher had put out to study for the next exam. They collaborated, assigning questions and each answering a few, then spoke about it, then printed out the results and shared them, all to be used on the exam in question (which did allow the use of notes) - the final.</p>
<p>He and all of the students involved in the study group were accused of cheating because the answers on the exam were too similar thanks to the standardized study guide they made. They all received a failing grade on the final and got an unofficial notation regarding academic dishonesty on their transcripts.</p>
<p>That's an extreme situation, but it does happen. So just be careful how you use those notes.</p>
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He and all of the students involved in the study group were accused of cheating because the answers on the exam were too similar thanks to the standardized study guide they made. They all received a failing grade on the final and got an unofficial notation regarding academic dishonesty on their transcripts.
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<p>Sounds a little sketchy to me. </p>
<p>First of all, I've never had a test where it would have been possible to simply copy stuff from a study guide verbatum. All of my tests are essays (which they don't tell you ahead of time, this isn't grade school) and open ended problems to be solved (similarly undisclosed before the test). Generally we're not allowed to use any materials on tests, but sometimes we're allowed to use a formula sheet or even the text (if it's an experimental and open-ended problem). </p>
<p>Also, what measures did they take to clear their names? If they did nothing wrong, had study sheet files saved, could demonstrate that they prepared this collaboratively before the test etc, I'm confused as to why they were punished.</p>
<p>god...stop being an uptight (profanity) and just share the notes...it's not like you are letting him/her copying hw</p>
<p>well, at my school grades are earned, not handed to you. If I work hard and take notes every class to get my B, why should I give someone else my work to get a B from if they never went to class?</p>
<p>This isn't high school, sharing notes doesn't make you a cool kid.</p>
<p>The day will come when you are the one in need of notes, whether because of illness, confusion, etc. It's a good idea to develop a few friends to support eachother. Find students who have a similar work ethic to you, not someone who sleeps in class.</p>
<p>soccerguy, do you hear yourself speaking? lol, it sounds quite pathetic. No, it doesn't make you a cool kid, but not sharing notes just makes you look like a huge loser. If you truly believe you are smarter why the hell do you care that the slacker in the class copies your notes..its not like he wouldnt have heard the same exact thing as you during the lecture if he was there. there isn't any advantage here.</p>
<p>I wouldn't help slackers, but a good support system of like-mined students can be a valuable asset.</p>
<p>Soccer guy, "well, at my school grades are earned, not handed to you," is incredibly pompous. Your school is the only one like that in the country? I didn't realize.</p>
<p>Hellokiki and soccerguy, yours sounds like the attitude of someone attending a cut-throat institution. Sharing notes or helping a fellow classmate will not decrease your knowledge or worsen your grade, will it? Can you only be successful by climbing to the top of a pile of your peers? If you don't want to share, then don't, but YES, I think it's too harsh.</p>
<p>DRab, I'm sorry, I didn't notice that I said "my school is the ONLY school where you have to work hard to get good grades." What's that? I didn't? Right.</p>
<p>smarter != automatically get better grades. People who work their ass off will do better than a smart person who doesn't work much. I'm not confident that I'm smarter than anyone. Everyone has the same opportunity to go to class and hear the information. Yea, there's always something you would rather do than class, but it's your own problem if you decide consistently that you want to sleep in. It's not someone else's job to bail you out. I sat through class everyday while you slept so you could take notes when it was convenient for you? I don't think so.</p>
<p>cut throat? no. People generally help each other at my school. Hard school? Yes. There are limited numbers of high grades given.</p>
<p>Let me explain sharing notes with:
someone who is sick: Ok!
someone who you know works hard but was up late the night before and falls asleep: Ok!
someone who attends class and wants to compare notes: Ok!
someone who doesnt' go to class and wants all the notes a week before the exam: No!</p>
<p>... basically, what lkf725 said in post 29 and 31</p>
<p>I don't think our views on this differ as much as you guys made it seem.</p>
<p>I should have been more thorough. You did not state that, but you surely implied that your school was like that and that many others are not, or that maybe your school was the only one like that. I do appreciate your very precise clarifications in this last post.</p>
<p>"Sharing is Caring...?"</p>
<p>Sharing is letting the other person get a better grade then me and thus eliminating any chance of me going to Med, Law, Buisness, graduate, or other advanced degree school.</p>
<p>Just kidding.</p>
<p>DRab... no hard feelings =D</p>