Should I accept?

<p>**I was admitted for transfer to UMD for Fall 09 semester and I still can't decide if I should accept. I am currently a sophomore at Rutgers University, majoring in Computer Science. I know that UMD is better than Rutgers in CompSci, which is why I applied. Is UMD a better school (generally)? And as a transfer student it seems like I wouldn't be able to get on-campus housing, is it hard to find good and affordable off-campus housing? If anyone knows both universities even a little bit, can you please tell me the pros and cons of each?</p>

<p>I'm an international student and I've only been in the US for 2 years so I don't know much about anything. It would be great if you could tell me a little bit about UMD.</p>

<p>Another question, is there a bandwidth limit for the campus internet connection for students? And is there a UMD DC++ hub that's active?**</p>

<p>I am in the same boat! I attend a virginian university so attending UMD would be out of state and their tuition is crazy high. I am waiting to receive a financial aid packet so we’ll see! And yes, transfer student housing is nearly impossible to get (so I’ve heard). It kind of sucks because I don’t have very much time to decide :frowning: </p>

<p>From what I know and have heard, UMD is ranked 53 according to U.S wdns, that in my opinion is pretty good (comparable to Penn State and Virginia Tech). It has great academics, a large student body, and excellent athletics. I hear their party scene is great if you like to party casually. Overall it’s a great school. The only downfall may be the surrounding city (which I hear is a bit “dangerous”?) and maybe not as well known throughout the US but definitely in the surrounding area (PA,MD,VA)</p>

<p>UMD hands down has a better reputation than Rutgers overall. As far as comp sci is concerned, it has a MUCH better reputation. </p>

<p>Transfer housing is hard. Finding housing off campus is hard. However, most juniors and seniors at MD are in the same boat (looking for off campus housing). As a transfer since you hear about your decision late, it is even harder to secure housing. But if you’re willing to bike a mile or whatever to school (you have to walk a mile to class from some dorms on campus! if you’re a guy this is less of a concern), or you’re willing to join in on a group house/frat that has open spaces, or you’re willing to pay around $750/800 a month (including utilities), none of this is a problem. Take advantage of all resources…campus newspaper, off campus housing site, etc. </p>

<p>Town of College Park is a bit sketch because it’s quite urban. However its perfectly safe to walk around during the daytime in, and on campus is perfectly safe. Biking off campus is also generally very safe. I just wouldn’t walk around intoxicated at 3 am…Finding good housing though, can be an issue. Make sure to ask around about safest hoods. Safer locations are off Metzerott rather than North up Route 1 (or in that community across from the M) or off the back of Adelphi. Frat row and surrounding neighborhoods are pretty safe. Apartments are generally safe. </p>

<p>Comp sci is pretty challenging tho. Are you doing well at Rutgers in Comp sci? If not, you may want to reconsider transferring to MD. It is notoriously difficult! But you’ll definiteyl graduate with a good job.</p>

<p>Hi there. Cannot help you with your decision, but my son has been looking into off-campus housing as a Freshman Connection student. If you decide to attend UMD and still have problems with housing, try the following websites:</p>

<p>[University</a> of Maryland - Off-Campus Housing Search](<a href=“University of Maryland | Your Home Away From Home”>University of Maryland | Your Home Away From Home)
[University</a> of Maryland - Off-Campus Housing Home Page](<a href=“University of Maryland | Your Home Away From Home”>http://www.umd.och101.com/)
parksideatcollegepark.com
universityclubatcollegepark.com</p>

<p>The Parkside, University Club, and another aprtment buoilding called The View - not sure of their website are within walking distance of the campus and the UMD shuttle services the area. </p>

<p>Good luck with whatever you decide!</p>

<p>**Thank you for your replies. Right now my main problem is in housing. I won’t be able to come to Maryland until a few weeks before classes start so I’m hoping to secure housing before I get there (which means I won’t be able to check the area). I’m looking for a place within walking distance from the campus, where should I look for?</p>

<p>I’m doing ok at Rutgers’ CompSci and I know going to UMD would be a challenge but it should be worth the hard work since UMD’s CompSci is very well known.**</p>

<p>^theater’s links are great. I was addicted to the “off campus housing search” when looking for a place to live next year. </p>

<p>Parkside and University Club are close to campus and right next door to each other. Definitely walking distance - right across the street. However, the neighborhood is not the safest, though many, many students live there.</p>

<p>Safer neighborhoods are generally off Metzerott (use Google Maps to see the location of an apartment complex or house; if you see a house that is on 42nd ave/st. other number streets etc. it is likely off Metzerott), student dominated housing walking distance on the backside of campus (there’s also two bus lines). It is not as convenient as Parkside but it is safer - and not too bad for an engineering student. Other safer neighborhoods are the houses South of frat row (with “college” street names such as College Ave, Harvard, Yale, etc. If you are a guy frat houses are especially prone to having affordable openings - if you don’t mind living in a frat house, that is!!) on that side of the street. These are expensive and there are no apartment complexes, but you may find an empty room in someone’s house (a lot of students open up spaces in their group houses 'cause a roommate is studying abroad, they didn’t get enough people to meet their financial needs, etc.). When looking into group houses ask if you will be on the lease or protected by the lease - in many cases more than 5 people are living in a house, and some people will not be on the lease (in college park it is illegal to have 5+ unrelated people in a house, however landlords and tenants routinely ignore this…in fact I am living in a house with 8 people next yr haha. This is not true for frats/sororities of course, that’s perfectly legal if it’s university affiliated). </p>

<p>Some other apartment complexes (I would contact the off campus housing office at MD for more info) are Hartwick and Knox Towers, Knox Boxes (the boxes are kind of expensive and gross but again, very student dominated neighborhoods), The View (very expensive but convenient and safe). Hartwick/Knox area apartments are not convenient for comp sci majors, they are on the opposite side of campus, walking distance (Right across the street) of South Campus/Susquehanna Hall/South CAmpus diner/etc. The View is heaven for engineering students.</p>

<p>Finally University Town Center is NOT walking distance but there is a campus shuttle that runs and it is student dominated. For me this would be a last pick since it’s far, but I hear the rooms are more affordable than the View’s and much nicer to boot. </p>

<p>If you are looking into an apartment or house feel free to PM me to ask about the location. I can try to give you specifics on how safe it’s perceived to be, how close to campus is, if there’s a lot of students, etc. I think you’ll be able to find something walking distance and affordable (well, if you consider around the price of a dorm to be affordable) but you really have to be tenacious!</p>

<p>^ Thank you SO much! I am currently looking at the website.</p>

<p>umcp11 - that was great info.
Is the area around University Club and Parkside really unsafe or just so-so? I am concerned about this, although when we were there a few weeks ago, we were able to talk to students who lived in both places and there was no real concern for this. Some of them
(at University Club) were stayng on for another year, so I took this as a good sign.
We liked the fact that even though off-campus, you still felt part of the UMD community.</p>

<p>(d) if you are looking for a place to meet more students, I would probably try an apt. building. As mentioned above, forget The Towers - much too far from campus and did not care for the area - also the building is shared by 10 or so other colleges, so it is not only Univesity of Maryland students. If you are an upperclassmen, I would look into The View, although the rents seem to be higher. Parkside vs. University Club - for some reason, just got a better feel for University Club. They showed us a model room - Parkside did not and they have a much nicer lounge/study room area. Regarding safety, I just felt that UC was more secure (could not get in without being buzzed in) and at Parkside was able to walk into a side door which was propped open.
Also, the UMD shuttle stops right in front of UC form 4 pm to 3 am or something like that. During other hours, we were told it is not a very long walk to campus, or you can walk a block or two and cross the street or catch the UMD shuttle in front of The View.</p>

<p>The first website listed in my previous post is really good. It lists many places for rent, has some photos. Also, there is a roommate finder where you can either search a profile or post one. You may find a CompSci/Engineering student or transfer student for that matter that you may feel comfortable with to room.</p>

<p>What is UMD on-campus housing policy for transfers?</p>

<p>It is too bad that University or Maryland has what seems to be a housing shortage, and the surrounding area to the school where most apartments/houses/ rentals can be found is not the safest.</p>

<p>Good luck again with your search.</p>

<p>I would say the area around UC and Parkside is “so so” and certainly not terrible. Most of the crime alerts (not that there have been that many, but even a few is alarming) come from that area (Berwyn House Road). There is low income housing in the neighborhood and I think because of the high population of students off campus, they are targeted somewhat (I have heard of several houses being broken into, esp. over winter break). However, the number of crime alerts is probably also due to the high concentration of students - the more students, the more possible crimes, just statistically speaking.</p>

<p>My friends and I chose NOT to live in a house in the neighborhood due to safety concerns; however, I feel that apartment complexes are much safer than homes as they have more residents, better security systems, etc. I agree that I prefer UC in terms of safety (being buzzed in, bus stop right outside rather than across the street, etc.). My roommate from this yr is living in Parkside next yr, though. I think both are safe enough for a student to consider, frankly, if you exercise common sense (something a lot of students lack haha).</p>

<p>The one thing is that you definitely feel as if you are part of the MD community. Students EVERYWHERE. Almost like being on campus.</p>

<p>I’m not sure of what hte housing deal for transfers is. I have a friend who transferred as an upperclassmen and of course he was not able to get on campus housing. He found a room advertised in a group house for pretty cheap. He biked about a mile to school through Lake Artemesia and lived with a bunch of other students. He lived in a safe neighborhood but biking through the park at night probably is unadvisable haha. But since I know he did it, that’s why I consider rooms in group houses to be a good option, esp. since there are a lot available much closer to campus/in more student dominated areas than the one he lived in! Of course if you can afford a room/find a roommate for an apartment, that would probably be the preference of most people.</p>

<p>**How is the campus shuttle/bus system? Is it convenient? **</p>

<p>My impression is that the bus service is very extensive and very convenient! We were there on a Monday ahd there were buses all over the place in and around campus. Log on to transportation.umd.edu and you will find all the info you need. (schedules and maps).Seems that all UMD shuttles, no matter what, have a stop at the stamp student union. Buses seem to run from aproximately 6:30 am to 3:00 am. If you prefer a booklet of all the routes, the OCHO (off-campus housing office) has copies. We picked one up when we visited. It’s a great booklet with all the schedules, parking info, commuter options (metro info, etc.)Any other questions, comments, or concerns that you have, try e-mailing the UMD transportation dept. at <a href=“mailto:dotsprm@umd.edu”>dotsprm@umd.edu</a> or call 301-314-2019.</p>

<p>The shuttle system is very good and it even goes off campus, it is not just on campus. It is very convenient and they run very frequently. You can’t drive on campus without seeing a bus on every road. For every 4 or 5 cars you see driving, you see at least 1 bus. I am not positive, but about 90% sure they also go to the grocery stores, I am sure they do this because some on campus housing are apartments (new leonardtown and old leonardtown)</p>

<p>Re: off-campus housing, here is another link which may be a bit redundant, but also offers a podcast of an OCH seminar given by UMD in February (about an hour long , but you may find some good info and can skip some parts). It is och.umd.edu</p>

<p>ok, thanks. From the way it’s looking right now I’m going to find housing not within walking distance of the campus so I’d be relying on the campus buses.</p>

<p>Be careful.</p>

<p>Due to budget cuts some commuter lines are being cut next yr, which the booklets/website will not reflect yet (ex. the Route 1 corridor will no longer be in service). If you find housing I would contact DOTS (transportation.umd.edu) to make sure the bus you are considering taking runs often enough/even runs at all next yr.</p>

<p>That said, even with the cuts the commuter lines are very extensive. Certainly the best bus system of any of the my friends’ universities.</p>

<p>**Yet another question [^.^]</p>

<p>When you say The View, is it University View? I checked a website for apartment ratings and the ratings were pretty bad… Only 1 out of 9 people recommended that place. **</p>

<p>Really? Thats a bit surprising. The View’s the huge apartment building thats literally right on the border of campus. It’s known as being safe (people have to check in their guests and have them turn in their student IDs when coming into the building). However, it’s also extremely expensive and therefore has a certain crowd. Compared to the dorms, the people there seem to keep to themselves, but also since I’ve only lived in a dorm, I’m not sure how this compares to other off campus housing locations. But overall, if you can afford to live there, I and most others would definitely recommend it. (info from having a friend that lives in the view and another that almost lived there)</p>

<p>**Yes they say safety and how close it is to the campus is the positive things of The View. People who are still staying there seem to be enjoy living there but most people who wrote the review seem to be relieved to be out of there.</p>

<p>Their main issues are with parking (which I wouldn’t have a problem with since I don’t have a car), the staff and management (said to be very rude and do not respect for privacy, coming in and out of the unit without permission, and treating the building like dorms instead of apartments), they have extra utility cost that is very expensive, and how thin the walls are.**</p>

<p>The View is VERY expensive. So I imagine people are ****ed off that they have to pay so much, while still putting up with dorm-like conditions (thin walls, construction, relatively small rooms, etc.). I’ve been inside though and it’s true - it is far too much money to justify one room in that little apartment, when you imagine that you live with four people who are also paying 900 dollars a month! Four people willing to pay 900 each (plus some extra utilities) could rent you a really nice (entire) house in CP in a nice neighborhood. Ridiculous rent, ridiculous. A major concern lately has been the construction. Apparently it is very loud. They are constructing a new building right in front on the route 1 side; has been going on for the past 2 yrs. I dunno if they would be finished or not with the heavy dust by the time you moved in.</p>

<p>But if you are rich/can easily afford it, go for it. It’s not luxury (as in it’s not worth the rent) but it has a decent kitchen, single rooms, a little living room. And it’s very convenient and close to campus. In terms of cleanliness/etc. I think it is better than Parkside/University Club. Certainly far superior to a dorm, though of course about $200 more a month. </p>

<p>So I am not surprised by the ratings but quite frankly - from what I hear - most off campus housing sucks and it’s basically (unless you are very lucky and renting a chill party house with a group of chill, clean people who turn in the rent on time and got in early enough to be close to campus) picking the worst of the evils. Then again dorm housing sucks too, doesn’t it? It’s college. Lol. You have to prioritize what’s most important to you (proximity, safety, price, management, cleanliness, some combination,etc.) and decide from that.</p>

<p>Haha yeah that’s what I thought. This is college so I’m not looking at any luxury. But is it really that expensive? Because so far the rates I found online for The View is about 700-750 a month + utility. If it’s going to be 900 I don’t think I can afford it.</p>