Should I add MIT and additional Ivy League colleges to my list?

I don’t think you should move Ga Tech to the match category given their out of state acceptance rates. Also, if you can’t afford it without a scholarship, you might consider removing it from your list in favor of a more affordable option.

I don’t think OOS engineering at Wisconsin is a safety for anyone.

As an engineer who works in the BME space and has done some college recruiting for a very large medical device and pharma company. At job fairs, I heard over and over again how the BME degree is a tougher job hunt degree then straight EE, ME and most of all CSE. You would be amazed at the number of Aero Engineers in this space. This is because an Aero engineer is versed in three disciplines, EE, ME, and Materials.

Of course, none of this is what you asked. To that question, I’d answer, yes, you should!

I think you put too much emphasis on the prestige of the school, and not enough of exploring the environment or life of the school. It is important to choose a school that you love, because it will nurture you in return.

To me, this is a red flag. Why would you change your career goals based on what school admits you? Your career is for life, and college is just four years. Medicine is a brutal path no matter what college you attend. Most US med schools have admit rates lower than Harvard. The tuition will be close to half a million dollars. You will spend an extra four years in school and then many years after that as a low paid resident. Meanwhile, your peers who chose other paths will be debt free, and happily earning a good living. My daughter is desperate for medicine and I have made certain she knows all of this. Choose this path only if you have a true passion for it. Your willingness to switch to something else for the sake of a prestigious undergrad tells me that you may not.

If you would be happy in engineering, my suggestion is to follow that route and forget medicine.

thanks @coolguy40

Yes, 1-2 good scholarship schools or a good in-state school. good idea.
I guess end of the day, $$$ will decide I guess.

thanks @merc81

Definitely will look into U Roch too.
It has decent BME program.

Thanks @bopper

All five bullet points are great advice.
Yes, I am thinking those and will definitely keep those in mind while admission.
I want to choose BME as major in undergrad and go to Med school.
But most schools don’t have acceptance rate for “BME-to-Med School”.
Do you know how is the success rate for “BME-to-Med School”.

Thanks @elena13

Sure will the keep “GA Tech” in the removal edge when it comes to choosing number of schools apply.

thanks @Eeyore123


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Don’t know. but lot of my seniors got into UW madison with similar or lower stats.

thanks @BrianBoiler

Wow - that’s a nice approach. Exactly that’s what I am thinking.
I will not stop with undergrad in BME.
If I go the BME route, I would like the to do masters and Phd too.

thanks @TacticalPotato

Thanks @gallentjill

Really glad to see this advice. Yes, since childhood I always wanted to be a doc until Junior year.
Lot of people scared me with realities including my counselors (GPA rigor).
So I am now in 80% med school & 20% engineering .
But my goal still be a doc.

I would consider substituting Rice for Brown. The schools have similar admissions profiles, but Rice makes much more sense for your academic and vocational goals.

If you want to add another Ivy, Cornell is probably the best choice.

MIT seems like it might be a bridge too far in terms of probability of admission.

I’m not sure I agree. Posters are placing far too much emphasis on the quality of undergraduate engineering programs for a prospective pre-med, I think.

Brown has a perfectly fine undergrad engineering program that prepares students well for either medical school or a master’s (or PhD) in engineering. More importantly, the A/B/C/no credit grading scheme, unlimited pass/fail, no curriculum requirements, ability to drop classes until the last day of classes, etc. makes Brown very appealing to pre-meds. It’s not a surprise that Brown has the highest average GPA of the top universities.

Brown is an especially good option if OP is admitted to PLME. It’s a long shot for everyone, though.

Thanks @MrSamford2014
Thanks @warblersrule

Only reason I choose Brown is - “SAT II scores” recommended, but not required.
I think Rice is requiring SAT II scores. I have very low SAT II scores. (math 710 Physics 650)
So I have very low low probability getting into reach schools that requires SAT II score.

Rice “recommends” but does not require Subject Tests.

https://futureowls.rice.edu/futureowls/Standardized_Tests.asp

The question of whether Subject Tests are truly optional for these colleges has been asked in other threads, including:
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/2027962-sat-subject-tests-are-not-truly-optional-for-middle-upper-middle-class-applicants-at-elite-colleges-p1.html

Even if schools say recommended, unless it is a hardship to take the tests, they are expecting to see those scores.

Most of the schools listed as reaches in the original post are reaches for virtually all applicants, even with respect to admission alone. Whether or not they also are big reaches w.r.t. cost depends on the OP’s financial circumstances (as well as the sticker prices). For some families, highly selective private schools like Stanford or the Ivies will be among their most affordable 4y college options.
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/2092536-net-price-data-for-selective-private-colleges-p1.html

I recommend that the OP and parents run the online net price calculators on any schools that interest you, then discuss whether they are able and willing to cover the Expected Family Contributions.

thanks @skieurope for the link.
that really helps to plan.
looks like I long to those “no exception” list. Anyway I will submit and see my luck.