<li><p>How does the admissions rate for Wharton compare to SAS? (I’m going to guess SAS is less selective.)</p></li>
<li><p>Should I apply to the less selective college (SAS), just to get into Penn? They seem to brag about how interconnected all of the colleges are.</p></li>
<li><p>I am still undecided: business, international relations, or economics. Should I also apply SAS because Wharton would be too narrow for my indecision?</p></li>
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<p>yeah just do SAS. Or you should do Huntsman (international business program) and then SAS as your second choice. You can only do that with the special programs</p>
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<li><p>Yes, Wharton is more selective than SAS. Wharton received over 5500 applicants and admitted 544. </p></li>
<li><p>You should not apply to SAS just to be in Penn. If it’s not what you want, you won’t be happy there.</p></li>
<li><p>No one can make this decision for you. Follow your interests.</p></li>
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<p>I would do Huntsman with Wharton as your second. It’s much easier to do an internal transfer out of Wharton than it is in</p>
<p>I think that I will apply SAS: it’s safer in academic interest and in acceptance. I also think I will apply Huntsman as a crapshoot, but keeping SAS as second choice.</p>
<p>Also, is there any disadvantage to applying Huntsman + SAS versus just SAS? Are there more essays? Do they look at your app differently in any way?</p>
<p>And I don’t think my stats are good enough for a Huntsman/Wharton combo. I have nothing against SAS, and I would be very happy there. Taking a few classes at Wharton would still be an option.</p>
<p>But any advice is always welcome. If seeing my stats would help, here is a recent chance thread of mine: [URL="<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/724232-stanford-columbia-brown-georgetown.html"]LINK[/URL">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/724232-stanford-columbia-brown-georgetown.html"]LINK[/URL</a>]</p>
<p>There’s one more essay you have to write, but supposedly getting denied from huntsman still leaves you with full consideration for you secon choice. I’m thinking of doing Huntsman/SAS as well, although I’m not gonna get my hopes up for Huntsman.</p>
<p>wow man, read your profile, quite a compelling life story. 2200 will make you competitve for a bunch of top schools. SAS has the smartest kids (math, physics, chem, computational bio, etc.) and the dumbest kids (most of the soft stuff), while Wharton students are kind of in between, in general. You’re unlikely to meet a kid who wows you with his intelligence in Wharton, but they are very ambitious, career-oriented from day one and know what it takes to get ahead on Wall Street- budding financiers from grade school haha…</p>
<p>Econ in SAS is a solid top 10 department, though IR is not that great at Penn. You have a lot more flexibility in terms of curriculum in SAS so the rigor of your schooling is what you make of it. Wharton is more structured and your training will be quite homogeneous to your peers. I would strongly advise a business-minded student in SAS to take ACCT 101 and FNCE 100 and an intro computer science class.</p>
<p>thanks, you guys are very helpful!</p>
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<p>You should consider that when thinking where to ED (i.e. Stanford < UPenn).</p>
<p>haha, well actually I’m applying through the questbridge process, so in a way, my ED goes to both of those schools, along with a few others. :]</p>
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<p>I think those smart kids are usually in SEAS</p>
<p>Yeah, the smart kids are usually in SEAS.</p>
<p>Regardless - please apply with a long-term goal. While it is correct that many wharton courses are able to be taken by all, the intro courses such as FNCE 100, MGMT 100, ACCT 101, are all primarily reserved for Wharton students. It will be quite difficult to get in, and without those courses, you won’t be able to move forward in Wharton much.</p>
<p>Don’t apply to get in. There are plenty of SAS students at penn that got in just for penn. There are quite a few SEAS girls that got in because it’s easier to get in that way.
Penn admissions call them “backdoor trojans.”</p>
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<p>Yeah right. Penn IR isn’t a powerhouse of IR research (it has no graduate program) but it excels in undergraduate education.</p>
<p>The major itself is very rigorous, with prerequisite courses (and grades achieved in them) just to be let into the major. The required course are at the upper limit of what Penn majors can require, and the major requires a 2-semester thesis project. Only the dedicated get through, and those that do go onto the top law schools (one IR classmate was admitted into Harvard, Stanford, and Penn Law), top “prestige” jobs (Goldman, McKinsey, etc) and government service.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t come here for a graduate degree in IR (again, there is no grad program, the program exists to devote 100% of its resources to undergrads), but for undergrad it is an absolutely top-notch program.</p>