Okay…
Maybe not argue to get back into NHS but someone else I believe did something worst and didn’t get kicked. This made me a bit confused about what the standards for NHS are. Let us just say I gave myself an unfair advantage on a test by writing down some notes and using them. I understand that is completely wrong and I don’t deserve to get back in. But, someone else at my school inputs a racist joke and it was even considered a bomb threat on a Google Doc. He was punished with a three-day suspension which doesn’t appear on college applications, but he did not get kicked out of NHS. Even though he was joking, he didn’t get kicked out and not even a suspension from NHS. I don’t know if in NHS cheating is worse than something like this, but am I in the wrong to ask the NHS advisor why this person didn’t get kicked out as well?
Yes. You need to worry about yourself, not anyone else. Whining about why someone else did not get kicked out is akin to a toddler who whines, “But he started it.” That behavior should have ended after kindergarten.
No, let’s say what it was - you cheated. You suffered consequences having been caught, and now hopefully you can learn from your mistakes.
I believe each school that has a NHS chapter is required to publish its qualifications for membership based on the four pillars of NHS: scholarship, service, character and leadership. You could ask to see what your school requires. However, you did cheat on an exam and whether the other student’s conduct warrants removal from NHS is not your call.
Thank you for your response. I understand what I did was wrong and beyond stupidity. I also understand that it is not my call. What do you mean “what my school requires”
National Honor Society allows schools to set their own entrance requirements based on the 4 pillars. What might get you accepted into NHS at one school may not be good enough at another school etc. Colleges are aware of this and don’t really care if your in NHS since they can go by your grades and involvement by itself.
I understand the 4 pillars and the different requirements, but would there be a possibility that NHS looks at cheating worst than racism and threats. I just confused about that because in my mind I see it that racism and threats are just as bad if not worst.
You should only worry about yourself. It does no good whatsoever to keep comparing your misdeed to the misdeed of another.
You cheated on an exam. Cheating seems to be grounds for being removed from NHS at your school (which sounds appropriate IMO).
You can talk to the NHS advisor and see if there is anything you can do to be reinstated if it is important to you. Show remorse and an understanding of your mistake.
If you can’t get back into NHS move on – NHS isn’t a big deal in terms of college applications.
Recognize your mistake and don’t do it again. If all the cheating incident cost your was NHS membership, then IMO you got off easy.
@Spanishwiz3424 your school’s requirements are the only ones that matter as far as whether you are in or out of the society. The governing corporate entity doesn’t have any say. If you feel you were unfairly treated you should discuss the circumstances with your NHS advisor. However saying you should be re-instated because someone else did something wrong is not logical. Whether the other student should be removed has nothing to do with you.
I understand your frustration but is it possible there are other facts relating to the suspended student that make that circumstance different from your own. Cheating is a pretty big deal in almost every instance and it goes directly against the idea of honor. Could be that your situation is more simple to adjudicate.
From the OP “Let us just say I gave myself an unfair advantage on a test by writing down some notes and using them.”
No. Let’s tell the truth. You cheated. You got kicked out of NHS for cheating.
Stop trying to justify it. Stop trying to make it less of an infraction than what someone else did.
Take ownership of your actions and accept the consequences of your choices.
I suspect that you’re smart enough not to be nearly as confused as you claim. You’re just grasping at straws. The fact that you can’t even take ownership of your actions tells me the NHS moderator made the right choice.
As to the other kid, apparently he, too, was wrong. It’s entirely possible that he, too, will be kicked out. Or that there’s more to the story than you know. Or that there’s an investigation in process and nothing can happen until it’s over. Or that it’s a police matter and the school doesn’t want to act on it yet. Or that the NHS mod is simply too busy to get to it at the moment.
If you know now that it was wrong, why didn’t you know when you did it? Nearly every CC kid who gets consequences proclaims they know it was wrong and feel oh so terrible. Would you feel so remorseful if you hadn’t been caught and booted?
You aren’t being punished for what the other kid did.
The end.
“I understand the 4 pillars and the different requirements, but would there be a possibility that NHS looks at cheating worst than racism and threats. I just confused about that because in my mind I see it that racism and threats are just as bad if not worst.”
It doesn’t matter what you feel is worse. The judge and jury on this one are the NHS coordinators at your school.
The other guy clearly failed to live up to the pillar of character. However, I would argue that you violated two pillars: character AND scholarship.
Appeal or not, but I would leave the other guy’s indiscretions out of it.
So the most important thing is “did you learn from your mistake of cheating”. Also why did you cheat? If not prepared for a test then your gonna have lots of fun in college. It’s much harder
NHS as a whole is just not that important. At my kids school (yes, they were the top state school when he was there) like everyone was on it which made my son not even apply even though he was qualified. He did other things to separate himself from the pack. I suggest you do the same.
Also don’t worry about what you can’t control. Worry about yourself. That is much more important. Learn from your mistakes or you’ll find yourself without a college to go to.
When I said I understood what I did was wrong, I learned from the mistake I made. This was a reality check and I am learning each and every day. I take ownership of my own actions because I just didn’t have the self-confidence walking into the test. After I talked to the teacher whose test I cheated on they said I would have gotten a high grade without the cheat sheet. She stated the amount of effort I put into the cheat sheet was considered studying in itself. But I can’t help to just feel frustrated that equal justice wasn’t given to the other person. I know the whole situation of the other person and I just feel frustrated, that’s all.