Should I continue in Bioengineering?

<p>Hello all! I'm hoping that some of you may help me get informed about some choices of major. My ultimate goal is to work at a research lab or biotechnology company.</p>

<p>Currently my major is Bioengineering (Biotechnology). I'm pretty happy with this major, but there are a few things that unease me. First is the general philosophy of engineering vs. science: that engineering focuses on understanding practical methods while science focuses on understanding the entirety of the physical system at hand. If I continue in an engineering major I fear that I'll trade depth of understanding for breadth of fields, which is not something I'd like to do. Ultimately, understanding the physical world is first for me, and then applying it. </p>

<p>This is compounded by the specific engineering field. I've heard a lot about how bioengineering produces graduates who are "jacks of all trades" but not especially well trained in any specific discipline because of the breadth of the major. I've also heard that in general biotechnology companies prefer to hire other types of undergraduate engineering majors (EE, MechE, ChemE). Because I could study bioengineering in grad school with any of these undergraduate degrees or others, bioengineering as an undergraduate degree seems worthless. </p>

<p>I'm interested in biology, but I've heard that generally it makes more sense to become proficient in physical sciences such as physics and chemistry and then add biology classes later to specialize if one wants to go into biotechnology. For this reason I am considering changing majors to Physics (with a concentration in Biophysics). This seems good for the reasons above and also (correct me if I'm wrong) because a science major as opposed to an engineering major would allow me more flexibility to go for a double major or minor in other fields I'm interested in, including Chemistry, Mathematics and Computer Science, especially because I'm in Muir College. </p>

<p>Is this a good choice? I'm also pondering MechE or ChemE majors for reasons listed above. </p>

<p>Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>Don’t major in Biology if you want to work in Biotech or go to BE grad school, it will not adequately prepare you unless you step up the rigor beyond what is required of Bio majors, i.e. take Physics 2 series, take Math 20 series, etc. The bio major is designed for pre-medical students who do not need to know the in’s and outs of physics. </p>

<p>I really doubt biotech companies favor EE or ME majors over BE considering EE has virtually nothing to do with biology, and I’ve never heard of such a preference for ME/EE in biotech. I think your main competitors would at least be relevant to biotech, e.g. chemical engineering, (bio)physicists, biologists, etc.</p>

<p>Biophysics sounds like a good fit based on your interest in bioengineering and concern about building a solid science foundation first. I have also heard that if you want to work in biotech you need a Masters and/or PhD to be employable, or at least that’s what my friend in BE told me. With a physics major, you’ll lay down a strong foundation in principles of physics in your first few years, apply that knowledge to your understanding of biological systems in your later coursework, and then in graduate school be able to further apply physics to bioengineering with design projects, research and cutting-edge class material.</p>

<p>That being said, if you are to major in physics, understand that it will be a LOT of pure physics and that you should be highly interested in physics to pursue that degree in place of engineering, where you will/can get a solid foundation in physics without it being your life. Secondly, for someone who is interested in biology, I think bio will be sorely missed if you become a Biophysics major. The major consists of much, much more physics than biology. There are maybe 2-3 classes in that entire major which could actually be deemed “biophysics,” and the rest are distinctly physics only or biology only. There aren’t a lot of cases as an undergrad where you’ll actually see bio and physics together. Just fyi about the major, it may not be as interdisciplinary as you would think.</p>

<p>I guess what I’m trying to say is, things may not play out the way you anticipate. Maybe you think you want to major in physics and build a strong foundation in sciences first. Then you want to engineer and design biological models / tools by applying and merging your knowledge of physics with your knowledge in other fields. </p>

<p>In reality, you may find yourself tiring of all the physics and regret not taking a more practical, applied approach that more directly leads into your desired career. You may find that learning physics to the depth, volume and detail required of a Physics major is more than you actually want. You may find yourself pining for more tangible and interdisciplinary applications of physical concepts rather than an onslaught of rigorous theory. In an ideal world we would all first build a solid foundation in the sciences before applying them, but reality is a little messier. I say this to kind of counter-balance what seems to be a bias on your part in favor of theory and pure science first, and applications later. </p>

<p>You seem to believe it’s best to learn the science and theory before implementing it in design and practice. While I agree this seems logically sound, I would argue that you need to think more critically at the individual level as to whether or not that path is right for you. There is a good chance you cry “Theory!” now but wish you had taken an engineering approach a few years down the road. There are lots of factors which play into why you might change your tune as time progresses, including but not limited to: evolving interests, difficulty of studies, admission into a specific graduate school/program, time you’re willing to spend in school and what that time will be spent studying/doing, employability and job stability, and specific research interests (which may require some knowledge or skill you failed to acquire due to lack of foresight, previous interest and/or luck). Considering all these factors, it is pretty hard to say your views and plans will not change.</p>

<p>I’m not saying you shouldn’t major in a pure science, but you should certainly consider the possibility that your views and interests will evolve. After all, the only person who can decide what path is right for you is yourself. Try to talk to people who favor either side (straight into engineering vs. science first) to help you decide what’s best for you personally. I think you’re just as likely to be on the right path (major in a pure science first) as you are to be on the wrong path (wish you had done things differently). All I can say is, it’s a good thing you’re thinking about this early and asking questions. Keep doing so, and I wish you luck with your future plans!</p>

<p>Sincere thanks to you, 92faim, I couldn’t possibly have asked for a more thoughtful and helpful answer. People like you encourage myself and others to ask questions and stay informed. </p>

<p>I’m aware that a large majority of my time as a biophysics major will be spent studying pure physics, with a relatively small amount of biology near the end and little to no interdisciplinary work. Believe me, I wouldn’t even consider the option if I wasn’t interested in physics (in fact, one of my concerns about my current bioengineering major is that I’ll miss out on a majority of it), but of course I see your valid point about how it may become tiring. I certainly don’t profess to know now exactly what I will want to study for my entire college career, but I’m taking a reasonable guess and posting about it to make sure that my plan isn’t completely misinformed or widely considered crazy. I hope to soon talk to someone in the physics department to see if they think I’d fit in there. </p>

<p>To be perfectly honest, though I do have the drive to study academic topics outside of school, it ebbs and flows, and I benefit from a structured education. College might be my only chance to build a strong foundation of knowledge in the physical sciences which I can be confident in. If I skimp out on such a foundation of education in the physical sciences I fear that I will regret it. I really don’t want to be someone who can answer all questions in a biological field but not understand the underlying chemical and physical forces at play; that seems superficial to me. No offense to those in bioengineering or anything. </p>

<p>Of course, this is just the current me talking, and I don’t deny that he will probably be gone within a few weeks, or even days or hours. And yes, I’m biased in favor of my current tastes. I suppose what will ultimately decide it will be my tastes in academia when the deadline comes to declare a major. Sigh. </p>

<p>Anyways, thanks for the comment, and may the intellectual winds be ever at your back!</p>

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<p>Engineering majors are considered more competitive for getting into grad school. Just thought Id throw that out there ;)</p>

<p>^ I think if you’re applying to grad school for engineering as a bio major with no engineering classes under your belt, of course you’re going to be considered less competitive. I think the argument for EE/ME vs Bioengineering is that you are as competitive with a ME/EE if you specialize in a bio-related field, but if you’re a Bioengineer applying to ME/EE grad schools and jobs you’re less competitive. People generally argue that the Bioengineering major curriculum is too broad to be competitive in other fields.</p>

<p>Also, you can structure your own college education such that you’re taking harder physics classes. Even as a biophysics major you’re not necessarily required to take the hardest physics sequence (<a href=“http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/curric/PHYS-ug.html;[/url]”>http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/curric/PHYS-ug.html;&lt;/a&gt; 4 series is recommended but not required). The beauty and difficulty of college is you have the freedom to make your education fit you, though arguably you have less flexibility as an engineer major because of the courseload. Schedule permitting, you could take the 4 series as a bioengineer, just as many bio majors take the 2 series instead of the 1 series to gain a better background in physics.</p>

<p>Just want to throw that out there, because it sounds like you’re letting the major dictate what you want out of the college experience. I think of majors more as a guide and a checklist. It sets up your career path but the stuff you do outside of your major - the internships, the lab positions, the extra classes and specializations - really help you get there.</p>