<p>therein lies the problem...i'll still be applying to them though</p>
<p>true, arright let me rephrase that then...1 safety and 5 Moderate Reach/Far Reach..Up to you which ones to pick. I guess that makes more sense now lol</p>
<p>lol ok well i've been looking at all the 20 or so schools i had listed for awhile now and have read alot about the pros and cons of the schools. This is what I'm thinkin so far (and I've gotten rid of like 8 schools or more):</p>
<p>Safety:
University of Texas - Austin
Boston University</p>
<p>Good Match:
Emory
Georgetown
NYU
Northwestern</p>
<p>Reach:
Brown
Columbia
Cornell
Chicago
Harvard
UPenn
Yale</p>
<p>Somehow I ended up with a lot of ivies. Is that common? I originally only had Cornell and Columbia, but Brown is absolutely awesome and I would like to give Harvard and Yale a shot. UPenn seems to be a bit of a better chance considering the transfer rate is better than most other ivys. As for what I consider matches, Northwestern has a great econ department and has about a 30% transfer rate. Goizueta is an awesome b-school and Emory also has around a 30% transfer rate. Georgetown (McDonough) - same deal as NU and Emory. NYU Stern has about 28% for this year and is in New York, so I'd really like to have that option available if accepted. I've never been to NYC. UT has a good business school and is by far the cheapest of my choices, and BU is in Boston and seems to me to be the safest. </p>
<p>I checked out UNC - CH on studentsreview.com and got a bad impression; same goes for JHU. WUSTL looks appealing to me. I think the transfer rate is also around 30%. Would that be a good safety/match. The biggest problem I'm having is that schools that will be safeties are usually not appealing to me. In other words, by comparison, Boston would be fine...So I guess I've gotten the answer to my question - should I even apply to BU? Yes, due to lack of alternate choices. :)</p>
<p>i don't think you need to apply to BU since you are a texas resident.
also, i don't think you should apply to emory. it's not that great over there. and penn has had a generous transfer acceptance rate for the past couple of years, but things changed this year. it's very competitive.</p>
<p>here's what i think u should apply to:
ut-austin
g-town, nyu, northwestern
harvard, yale, columbia, chicago</p>
<p>since you're mostly interested in econ/business, penn's econ program isn't as good as the other ivy's and chicago.</p>
<p>interesting suggestions...you've actually read my mind in a way. Just wondering, why take Cornell and Brown off the list? I always figured they were the more transfer friendly of the ivies, and to be completely honest, I LOVE BROWN and everything it stands for. If I ever get there my mind may change, but it is my favorite.</p>
<p>Thanks for your suggestions. I'm probably gonna drop UPenn now for sure (emailed transfer advisor 2 weeks ago no response! and if Chicago is better I'd rather go there anyways) and possibly also Emory and Boston.</p>
<p>p.s. The only reason I really was interested in Emory was due to its highly ranked b-school and reasonable transfer rate. What kind of bad things have ya heard about it? All I've heard is that it's full of rich ppl from Long Island that couldn't get into their top choices lol but I dunno how true that stuff is.</p>
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What kind of bad things have ya heard about it? All I've heard is that it's full of rich ppl from Long Island that couldn't get into their top choices lol but I dunno how true that stuff is.
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<p>The school wishes it were an Ivy League, and so do their students.</p>
<p>I remember my friend calling them the "beaten-up step-child." Their ED acceptance rate is apparently generous because so many students abandon them in RD.</p>
<p>lol nice analogy.</p>
<p>"The school wishes it were an Ivy League, and so do their students."</p>
<p>... this clearly demonstrates a "bad thing" about Emory...</p>
<p>Come on. For undergrad business Emory offers one of the best programs in the country, no arguing that. ATL, beautiful campus, abundant resources, strong reputation... No it doesn't equal HYP econ. or Wharton, but it's certainly close enough.</p>
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... this clearly demonstrates a "bad thing" about Emory...
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<p>Actually, yes, it engenders a disjointed student-body. We all know what Ivy-Envy does to people.</p>
<p>I'm going to take that as sarcasm. However, in case it wasn't, 40% of Emory students were ED applicants, i.e. Emory was the first choice for 40% of all undergrad students. Also, maybe your average Emory Art History major is Ivy- Envy, but a Goizueta student is likely to be quite content. Again, my only point, Brand_182, is that Emory is worth applying to in your case.</p>
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I'm going to take that as sarcasm.
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<p>Do not.</p>
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However, in case it wasn't, 40% of Emory students were ED applicants, i.e. Emory was the first choice for 40% of all undergrad students.
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<p>I think you are looking at the wrong statistic. That Emory could not pull more students from the RD pool is telling.</p>
<p>Hardly. You are arguing that the student body at Emory is Ivy- Envy to some perverse level. How exactly does yield tell us this? It doesn't... It proves that only 30% (Emory's yield in 2004) of RD applicants that got admitted chose Emory, it does not, however, prove whether or not those 30% who matriculated are content or not.</p>
<p>Conclusion: ED percentage proves that Emory was the first choice for 40% of the student body, and thus are not going to be Ivy- Envy. Yield percentage only speculates.</p>
<p>a friend of mine decided to attend emory after he got rejections from hyps and columbia. he then transferred to columbia after a year.</p>
<p>i don't know much about yields, and this is only one person of the student body i'm talking about, but he said that many students were unhappy and most were ivy-league rejects that settled for emory.</p>
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i don't know much about yields, and this is only one person of the student body i'm talking about, but he said that many students were unhappy and most were ivy-league rejects that settled for emory.
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<p>Bingo.</p>
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It doesn't... It proves that only 30% (Emory's yield in 2004) of RD applicants that got admitted chose Emory, it does not, however, prove whether or not those 30% who matriculated are content or not.
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<p>That is pretty poor yield.</p>
<p>According to revealed preference rankings, Emory is not even in the top 25.</p>
<p>Hahahaha.</p>
<p>1 Harvard
2 Yale
3 Stanford
4 Cal Tech
5 MIT
6 Princeton
7 Brown
8 Columbia
9 Amherst
10 Dartmouth
11 Wellesley
12 U Penn
13 U Notre Dame
14 Swarthmore
15 Cornell
16 Georgetown
17 Rice
18 Williams
19 Duke
20 U Virginia
21 Northwestern
22 Pomona
23 Berkeley
24 Georgia Tech
25 Middlebury</p>
<p>Impressive... I can quote rankings as well:</p>
<p>USNWR:
Emory 20 (even after Emory misreported alumni giving)
Georgetown 23</p>
<p>BusinessWeek: Undergrad
Emory 5
Georgetown 13</p>
<p>I still fail to see why he shouldn't apply to Emory.</p>
<p>he can apply to wherever he wants, but i would choose georgetown over emory in a heartbeat.</p>
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USNWR:
Emory 20 (even after Emory misreported alumni giving)
Georgetown 23
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<p>I was not even comparing Emory and Georgetown, and I was not defending Georgetown. Heck, I applied as a transfer to Chicago and Rice, and was accepted at both. Would you like to compare Chicago and Rice to Emory? I sure as hell would.</p>
<p>Oh, and according to the WSJ Graduate and Law school feeder rankings, Georgetown ranks higher.</p>
<p>Was that irrelevant? Yes, it was, much like the rankings you provided. The rankings in my prior post were relevant because they showed that Emory loses the majority of cross-admit battles not only between them and the Ivy League, but between them and the majority of top universities and LACs.</p>
<p>It's all relevant. He wants to major in business and/or economics. Emory is a fabulous school for undergrad business and he should apply, even if it is "not that great" and/or "Ivy- Envious." That is all I'm defending.</p>