Should I even bother with SAT's, AP's, and EC's if I'm going to a CC?

<p>I had it in my mind for the last few years that I was going to a UC and then out of nowhere a few weeks ago my parents were like "You're going to a community college".</p>

<p>If that's the case, what's the point of doing anything but going to class and graduating at the end of the year? </p>

<p>It really ****ed me off because I will have wasted years on this garbage when my parents just screwed me over in a matter of seconds.</p>

<p>Mmmmm, well, why not still go to a UC?</p>

<p>Where there's a will there's a way.</p>

<p>What are your stats? Maybe you can get scholarships/grants if $ is an issue.</p>

<p>i really don't know what the issue is, i haven't explicitly asked my parents and I find it hard to imagine money is a problem because we are considered a high income family and i know plenty of other people who send their kids to UC's and they make less money than us. im not trying to sound arrogant, it's just what i've observed. </p>

<p>My stats aren't great but I KNOW they are sufficient to get into a UC out of high school. Maybe not UCLA or UCB but anything 2nd tier. Problem is that my parents are so convinced that going to a CC is better because it saves money because they have been brainwashed by people they have talked to who go to a CC.</p>

<p>The only reason I'm really against a CC is because I hate where I live. I've lived here for 2 years and I couldn't wait to get out when we moved here. Now I find out I'm possibly stuck here for another few years. I get no independence, no social life compared to what I would get elsewhere. And not to mention most of the kids in my area are going to a CC because they are plain stupid, not because they want to transfer.</p>

<p>your parents sound like complete ***holes, I can't imagine how flipped off I would be if I suddenly had to drop my dreams of Yale for Community College.......ugh</p>

<p>Apply to some schools with nice scholarships, or just get a lot of scholarship money...tell ur parents i guess have any of those CC kids gone on to become rich? very very few (you can get a Degree in Bus-Driving from my local CC!!!!!!!)</p>

<p>You're most likely in state so the tuition will already be miniscule. Then just get some scholarships and free UC.</p>

<p>tell your parents to f*** off</p>

<p>Yes, by all means, sit down with your parents and spew all sorts of obsenities at them. </p>

<p>If that does not work, try sitting down with them and having a reasonable conversation. Talk about what going to a 4 year college means to you. Try leaving out how much you want to get out of the house. Come up with a budget, and tell them how much you think you can contribute. Find out why they think a cc is a good choice and listen to their reasons.</p>

<p>Look up some finaid calculators, and plug in numbers, get an idea what you family contribution might be. Again, you are going to have to approach your parents in a reasonable fashion, so you can get the info from them. </p>

<p>My son is a very hard working, high achieving student. We wont get finaid, but there are some scenarios which have him going to top schools with scholarships. If those pan out, we are looking at a lot of money. I am ok with this - it will be a major sacrifice, but he has worked hard. He has a bright future in front of him. </p>

<p>Now, if he wasnt such a hard worker, or if I felt like his only relationship with us was as an ATM machine, maybe I would be thinking cheaper school. </p>

<p>Your parents do not owe you a 4 year, all expense paid college experience - especially if the main thing you want out of it is a better social life. Think about them. It is a lot of money. You say your parents are well off, but I am not sure many kids really understand how much it costs just to get by these days. They may be looking at sending you to college, vs being able to retire someday. If you cannot acknowledge that your parents might have thier reasons and their needs, this isnt going to go very far.</p>

<p>I can see a board somewhere of parents. They might be posting something like "My son just informed us he plans to go to a 4 year college and we have to come up with the 105-200K. I suppose I should just stop dreaming of every quitting this job that gives me ulcers, etc." I am sure other helpful parents mught repond with "tell the ungrateful brat to f*** off" Or "Your son is a complete a**"</p>

<p>Just trying to add some balance here. It might help! good luck.</p>

<p>I think I'm just going to study anyway and apply to the UC's anyway. If I get in (which I should) maybe something will have come up by then and I'll go. I am in state but the tuitions arent cheap either.</p>

<p>For UCI the tuition is like 22,000 a year if I live on campus/off campus. I don't want to live at home and it would be kind of hard to drive there anyway since I live about 30 minutes away.</p>

<p>And LOL at the suggestions but seriously I have no choice. They are the ones paying for my education whether I like it or not. </p>

<p>My mom keeps calling people we know whose kids have gone to CC's and they talk about how great it is there. It's just more brainwashing. They will never say "No dont go to a CC its terrible". No one wants to bad mouth their school and then look like an idiot for actually going there.</p>

<p>Oh yeah and might I add, I already did swear at my mom last week. I said to her "Why are you telling everyone (friends) that I am going to a CC when it's not even a fact?" and she's like "YOU ARE. We already have it planned"</p>

<p>And that just *<strong><em>ed me off. I wasted all this time studying and doing EC's and she just smiled and went along with it? I asked her that "Then why the *</em></strong> did you waste my time buying SAT books, making me go to the hospital, and all that BS when you knew I was going to a CC?"</p>

<p>She had no answer.</p>

<p>And another reason I'm really annoyed is that my parents spend 30,000 grand a year on my bro to go to med school in the Caribbean. They said the other day "You should have applied to USC, you would have got in"</p>

<p>***??? USC IS EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE!!!!! WHY DO YOU SPEND MONEY ON HIM BUT NOT ON ME????</p>

<p>anotherparent gives very good advice.</p>

<p>The high school / college transition is a very difficult time for parents and children alike. </p>

<p>If you want them to reconsider, you will need to do some research and preparation in order to sit down and speak with them intelligently. If I had to guess, I bet that from their perspective some of this might apply:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>CC is significantly cheaper and you earn the same credits towards a 4 year degree that you would at the expensive school.</p></li>
<li><p>If you have been undependable or a partier, or difficult to get along with or whatever, they may view you as too immature to go away to school just yet. They might think they are protecting you in this regard. </p></li>
<li><p>Maybe they want to see how you do in CC before they fork over the big bucks for a 4 year school. (no sense to cough up the cash if the kid is just going to mess around and flunk out). </p></li>
</ol>

<p>You need to think of why the above isn't the case and present a solid argument for doing otherwise:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>It's harder these days to transfer to a 4 year school from CC (this is the case in some circumstances and not so much in others).</p></li>
<li><p>A 4 year school will give you more opportunities to network with faculty and memeber of the business community (tell them how so and what you would like to be involved in to do this "networking").</p></li>
<li><p>Research the programs you want to be involved with (why THAT particular school). </p></li>
<li><p>If your grades are good and you have a shot at scholarship money, it makes sense to go as a freshman (more scholarships are offered to freshmen). </p></li>
</ol>

<p>and there are plenty of other reasons. Put on your thinking cap and make a good case for it. Also, perhaps offer to get a parttime job to help PAY for it. Your parents may be waiting to see if you are really serious.</p>

<p>Regardless, no can stop you from being successful. If you end up at CC school - be the best student they have. And no, I wouldn't drop my challenging classes or stop being involved just because you think you might end up at CC - that's a sign of someone who just wants to "get in" instead of a sign of a person who is really motivated and wants to make something out of themselves. Do those things for YOU.</p>

<p>Some more cons for going to a CC then transferring:</p>

<p>1) Quality of education at community colleges is much lower than a UC. So if you go to a community college, you'll get what you paid for.</p>

<p>2) Quality of students at a community college is much lower than a UC. Sorry to who ever attends a community college, but generally this is true. One of the major reasons people want to go to better colleges is because they'll be surrounded by smarter, more driven, and more capable students. Higher quality students improves the intellectual atmosphere of a university and creates a better learning environment.</p>

<p>3) Like Pearl said, attending a UC for all four years allows you to network more and with higher quality students. Networking is absolutely essential. Plus, wouldn't it be nicer to have a circle of close friends who are all very successful rather than have a circle of close friends who are just getting by?</p>

<p>4) Are you considering attending graduate school or professional school? If you are, then you will need letters of recommendation. Preferably, dazzling letters of recommendations from top researchers in the field. Will you be able to cultivate those relationships with professors in only 2 years (since you're transferring in)? Again networking like Pearl mentioned.</p>

<p>Also, since you haven't applied to college yet, there are PLENTY of scholarships out there. You just have to find them. My friend received $50,000 worth of scholarship money total from various sources (something like 6 or 7 different scholarships), which paid for his entire first year expenses at a private university. Get a job, save money, get scholarships, get loans. Like I said before, if you are dead serious about going to a UC, it is very possible.</p>