<p>I got a BA with 2.7 gpa, because I was into movie and news, but they are not many jobs in that area, especially in that area. I would like to pursue something in engineering, college teaching, or maybe software development, but I would have to somehow get a new bachelors since they are all unrelated to my previous field (software developmemt requires a 4 year degree, computer support secialists are the ones who get jobs with certificates, but not interested in doing that). Certificates are only useful for technician level jobs or preschool education, so they wouldn't be useful. Im stucking working at a pizza place and convenient store, and most of jobs on the market either maintenance, sales (really hated sales), mechanic, driving, or healthcare type jobs. Seems my best option is get another bachelors, but I don't know how to pay for it. Also I have a passion for animal science research/care and natural science, but that requires another degree too (not interested in vet tech jobs, no much science or research in that job?</p>
<p>I really think you should get a job that can support yourself. Not many people have the luxury to just keep going to school without actually doing something to earn a living. Try to get satisfaction in contribution in your job instead of not liking what you do.</p>
<p>I have a job, I don’t get any satisfaction doing it. How do you get satisfaction when you are stuck in a job you don’t like.</p>
<p>I even mentioned my current jobs above.</p>
<p>The way I get satisfaction on my job is thinking what I am contributing to the well being of the society. Any job is noble. You are doing something that is needed, otherwise someone will not hire you to do that work. You shall also be able to learn on your job. Think of that as someone pays you a good scholarship to learn. Try not to do just the minimum but step up to help and do extra when opportunity arise. Tell you the truth, there are many people that would like to change place with you in this world. Your glass is half full NOT half empty.</p>
<p>Couple things here… first, this is the fifth time you’ve posted on this particular forum with the same problem. You appear to have taken none of the advice given to you by others; in fact you have only responded to tell why the advice people are giving you is useless. Stop doing that. </p>
<p>Second, where are you getting the idea that a professional certificate is useless? My fiancee got a certificate in paralegal studies after a one semester program, and that was her ticket to doubling her pay; it paid for itself in less than a year. So if you think a certificate is useless, you should open your eyes and look around.</p>
<p>When was the last time you applied for a job? The last time I replied to one of your posts, you said that you had given up and had stopped applying. That was eight months ago… in the past eight months, where have you applied?</p>
<p>Another bachelor’s degree will do nothing to help you but will raise your debt load by double. It is not a good idea for you. Your degree is enough, but you need to know how to market yourself. It is not easy to market yourself, and since you do have a disability, you are at a disadvantage. The job market, however, does not care… while they are not legally allowed to discriminate against you, they are not required to give you preference either, so that means you need to leave your comfort zone in order to get where you want.</p>
<p>So. Let’s talk steps.</p>
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<li>Brush up on your writing skills. This is only a forum, but the way you write on this forum gives insight into how you write elsewhere. It is not advisable to have a different style for formal versus informal communication… by that, I mean that if you only use proper grammar and punctuation and only check your writing when you are writing something important, you are more likely to miss something than if you do it with everything. Your posts on this forum are barely coherent and likely discourage otherwise helpful people from participating in the discussion and, ultimately, helping you.</li>
<li>Figure out what you want to do. Only you can do this. Don’t talk about what you can do with your current credentials and don’t talk about what you are unqualified for. Don’t talk about where you have previously been rejected or what skills companies are looking for. Just talk about what you want to do.</li>
<li>Figure out what you would do. Same rules apply as for number 2, but this is more along the lines of… if you can’t find something good in the area you really want to be in, what would you still be okay doing? For example, I want to work in marketing for a movie company, but I would really be okay working in any kind of marketing capacity. I’d even be okay working in a market research capacity.</li>
<li>Update your resume. Get help with this. When I was coming out of college, I had no relevant work experience to speak of, but when I sat down with my career adviser, she just had a conversation with me about what I did during college. After we talked, we looked at my resume, and she showed me how some things I thought were completely irrelevant (waiting tables!) could actually work as a great hook for the corporate world. That second set of eyes really helped.</li>
<li>Write a cover letter shell. Don’t write a cover letter and expect to send it to whichever companies you apply for; write a shell that has the points you want to make, and then write a new cover letter for each company. </li>
<li>Apply for jobs. This is where all your prep work culminates, but you can’t stop yet. It takes upwards of a half hour to fill out some application forms online, and when all is said and done, it can easily take 90 minutes to apply for one job if you take the time to do it well.</li>
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<p>If you would like me to review your resume, let me know!</p>
<p>I’ve looked, but it seems all the fields are geared towards either management, sales, or health. In order to get work in alot of science and tech fields I need another degree or certificate, but to do upper level I would get another undergrad or masters. I just didn’t think it was a good to apply for a job if you didn’t want to do it as a lifelong career, especially since I’m 30.</p>
<p>And to eventually get into other fields I would like to also requires more uppel level college courses.</p>
<p>Sorry for the bad grammar. I type these sometimes on an Iphone while stressed out.</p>
<p>On the movie marketing strategy, were you using that as an example or as real possible strategy. I’m not very extroverted or do small that well, so I’ve been avoiding any marketing type careers unless it would be only temporary.</p>
<p>Already did a sales and telemarketing job, so I’ve had experience doing that, but really didn’t like it. Don’t think I would ever do a telemarketing job again, because the one I was at wanted us to badger older to buy something and even to rip them off by misleading them. Not lying, just leaving out details.</p>
<p>Couple of things here … first, try not to post multiple times in a row; put all of your thoughts into one post and go with it. Second, I asked you to talk about what you wanted to do and specifically said not to talk about what you think you are unqualified for or what you didn’t want to do, and you ignored that piece of advice, going back to talking about how you can’t do anything because you are unqualified.</p>
<p>Stop talking about what you can’t do. It doesn’t help anybody, especially yourself, so just stop doing that. Your assertion that all of the jobs out there require some other degree is completely false. If you do not apply to a job, you will not get it. Period. If you look at a listing that says they want 3 years of experience and a bachelor’s degree in economics, you have two choices: 1) apply or 2) don’t apply. If you apply, you may get selected for an interview, or you may not. If you do not apply, the company will never know you had interest, so you will never get selected for an interview. It is that simple.</p>
<p>Marketing does not necessarily involve being extroverted. Working in marketing could involve entering RFPs into a CRM system - something that doesn’t require any live interaction with other people. </p>
<p>Reread my post above, and stop talking about what you can’t do or what additional credentials you need to do anything. A friend of mine graduated in 2011 and just this week got a full time job in something resembling a career field (as opposed to a low wage job). It takes time, effort and patience.</p>
<p>Regarding career, the entire concept of a career has changed in the past 25 years. In the past, you would find a company that you could see yourself working at from your first day until you retired. Companies were loyal to their employees, and vice versa. Today, companies and employees have no loyalty whatsoever. Nobody expects to be in the same job their entire careers, and nobody expects to be in the same career for 40+ years anymore. If you go into a field and determine that you don’t like it, continue working and find a different career. If you like it, stay in it! </p>
<p>Please tell me: how many jobs have you applied to since February of this year? If that number is less than ten, then you need to focus much more of your energy into finding a career type job.</p>
<p>Sorry, it wouldn’t let me edit or delete anything. Not many, maybe 10. I just didn’t think you were supposed to even apply to jobs wanting a separate degree, let alone even make it out of the slush pile. Should I at least try to get some training in that field. I guess I could I just didn’t figure out how.</p>
<p>I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of both the expectations of prospective employers and the purpose of undergraduate education. At its core, undergraduate education doesn’t teach you any skills unless you are in a program specifically designed as such (nursing and engineering come to mind). Even if you are in a program designed to teach you specific skills, you still need to be trained on the job since your employer has no idea what you actually can do before you show up on the first day. With that in mind, employers are much less concerned with having experience and skills than they are with having a positive attitude and the drive to earn that experience.</p>
<p>There are no rules about applying for jobs. The worst thing that can ever happen is that you do not get selected, so why not try? If you find a job description that looks interesting, apply to it. Completely ignore the required experience unless you want to tie your own experience to what the employer is looking for in a cover letter. Certainly do not think that you shouldn’t apply because you don’t have experience… every employer is looking for someone with experience, but they also know that experience is something earned, not learned, so the only way to get it is for someone to give you a chance.</p>
<p>During my senior year I got two offers. One had a requirement of restaurant management experience with a four-year degree in hospitality from a top-ranked hospitality school. The other had a requirement of 1-3 years of experience with a four-year degree in engineering, computer science or some other technical field from a top-ranked national university. I graduated with a political science degree and zero years of experience, with a mediocre GPA. If I had not applied to companies looking for credentials I didn’t have, I wouldn’t have found a job. </p>
<p>I understand your point Christian, but I’m just not content or have any pride in doing it. Not interested in taking a higher there either, because I don’t want to stay in the food or store business.</p>
<p>I have absolutely no idea what you just tried to say. Would you want to try again?</p>
<p>I was talking to the previous poster named Christian.</p>
<p>Oh I was talking to previous poster named Christian.</p>
<p>What do you mean by learn? School? The job? Why would someone want to learn more about something they don’t enjoy doing or want to make career out of. I don’t wan’t to be in food management business, so learning about won’t be any use.</p>