Should I go to Michigan or Notre Dame?

<p>Okay, so I'm a high school student preparing to go off to college. I got into both Michigan and Notre Dame. My ACT was a 32 overall. I hear both programs are pretty good academic-wise and career-wise, but my decision is coming down to one thing.</p>

<p>I want to go where there's a LOT of football tradition, where the energy is high on game day, and where I can really enjoy rooting for the football team. Which college has more football tradition - Michigan or Notre Dame?</p>

<p>I mean, I'm not really asking which team is better RIGHT NOW. What I'm asking is, if I were looking to become a serious fan of football (which I do), then should I go to Michigan (Ann Arbor) or to Notre Dame?</p>

<p>Tradition is really important to me, and I want to go to a college that has a lot of football tradition. So, which one?</p>

<p>Notre Dame…altho UMich’s traditions are strong, too. </p>

<p>Are both schools affordable? I wouldn’t go into debt over football tradition. ;)</p>

<p>I’d look into what suits your major more (and other things too), especially since both have really extensive histories.</p>

<p>I got a scholarship to both schools (not a full ride, but enough of one), so money’s not really an issue at this point. I’ve already gone through all the other criteria, nailed down Michigan and Notre Dame to my top 2 picks. My decision now is hinging on which one has more football tradition.</p>

<p>neither one has been any good for a decade. My guess is ND will get better short term, Michigan long term. Tuff to recruit low academic athletes at ND, internal rules. They both have great game day feel. Michigan plays a tuff schedule every year, ND schedule “lil sisters of the poor” types. I would go to Michigan and I am a badger alum.</p>

<p>LOL. Michigan was undefeated and lost a close game to Ohio State in 2006. They then lost to USC in their almost annual home game in the Rose Bowl and ended their season 10-2. I guess five years ago is more than 10.</p>

<p>Notre Dame for football, prestige and everything besides Engineering over UofM</p>

<p>Michigan owns the following against ND:</p>

<p>Taught them how to play football in the late 1800’s
Had ND copy the basic design of Michigan Stadium (which is still about 25,000 seats smaller.)
Has won more games head to head </p>

<p>Michigan owns:</p>

<p>The all time number of wins in div. 1 college football history AND has the all time highest winning percentage of any school in that division.</p>

<p>I’d say they have equal traditions. I also like “The Victors” fight song better and hate the leprechaun. </p>

<p>Besides that, I always have found it annoying that a school with a French name calls itself, “The Fighting Irish.” ;-)</p>

<p>Football tradition is comparable. Maybe your “tie-breakers” should be:</p>

<p>Same-sex residence college dorms v. co-ed</p>

<p>Big school v. medium school</p>

<p>Ann Arbor v. South Bend </p>

<p>Which school is more highly regarded in your major (I saved the most important one for last)</p>

<p>should have gone to ohio state, we’ve got loads of football traditions!</p>

<p>therefore, as a buckeye i can not condone you going to michigan, so NOTRE DAME!</p>

<p>"Besides that, I aleways found it annoying that a school with a French name calls itself the “Fighting Irish.” :wink: "</p>

<p>Not only does Notre Dame have a French name, it was also founded by a Frenchman in Indiana, USA. I have no idea why they are called the fighting Irish!</p>

<p>“should have gone to ohio state, we’ve got loads of football traditions!”</p>

<p>I guess you missed the part about great academics. By the way, “Script Ohio” was invented by the Michigan Marching Band as a courtesy to teach Buckeye fans how to spell the name of their state.
:-)</p>

<p>Michigan and Notre Dame both have excellent football traditions. Both programs have had problems, Michigan for the last three seasons and Notre Dame for the last 15 years, but both will be back to their usual winning ways soon, though the long term looks better for Michigan since it belongs to a major conference. Below are some comparative facts:</p>

<p>FACE TO FACE RECORD (the only metric that matters if you ask me):
Alltime: Michigan leads 22-15-1
Since1990: Michigan leads 9-7-1</p>

<p>ALL TIME RECORD:
Michigan: 0.735 (#1 among division 1 programs)
Notre Dame: 0.733 (#2 among division 1 programs)</p>

<p>ALL TIME WINS:
Michigan: 884 (#1 among division 1 programs)
Notre Dame: 845 (#2 among division 1 programs)</p>

<p>NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS:
Alltime:
Notre Dame 7 (#1 among Division 1 programs)
Michigan 4 (#6 among Division 1 programs)</p>

<p>Since 1990:
Michigan 1
Notre Dame 0</p>

<p>GAME DAY ATMOSPHERE:
Both are awesome and magical, but Michigan’s stadium is the largest in the US.</p>

<p>FIGHT SONGS:
Michigan and Notre Dame are #1 and #2 in no particular order</p>

<p>In short, you cannot go wrong with either program.</p>

<p>^^We had Gerald Ford. :-)</p>

<p>Notre Dame can keep Rudi, I would rather have Charles Woodson and Tom Brady! ;)</p>

<p>rjkofnovi: Pshhh, OSU has good academics as well! And at least we’re not quite so snobby! :slight_smile:
&oh goody! Well, thanks for that awesome tradition! It really helps, especially when we beat you year after year! :D</p>

<p>"Ann Arbor v. South Bend’’
There is no comparison</p>

<p>Football tradition is your primary decision factor? As many have said, you can’t go wrong with either so you really should concentrate on which school is a better fit for you. Compare the differences rather than the similarities (football being a similarity). Private, strong Catholic tradition vs. Large Public state university. 8500 undergrads vs. 27,000 undergrads. I don’t know much about Ann Arbor but it’s 40 miles from Detroit while South Bend is in the middle of nowhere 90 miles from Chicago. Do you picture yourself at a large public university or more moderate sized private, Catholic university? You really need to focus more on where you see yourself fitting in best.</p>

<p>Although I’ve never visited UMich, I can vouch for Notre Dame! I visited this fall, and I can honestly say that whenever there’s a game, you’ll know. The quads are decorated with hall cookouts, and everywhere you go you’ll find some people in absolutely crazy Irish gear! The marching band always strolls through campus strumming the fight song, and there’s always someone, anywhere you go on game-day, that will start chants that everyone joins in on! The games are the best, despite ND’s less than sparkling record. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but ND has a hugeee majority of their students attending the games in, of course, the student section. And when we score a touchdown, students hoist peers into the air and have them do pushups mid-air! One of my friends is a sophomore there, and she was telling me that you’re kind of an outsider if you don’t come and support the fighting irish! (The school has some major pep!)
I know this spiel is quite long, and I’m sorry if I wasted your time, but I definitely think Notre Dame is the better choice!</p>

<p>It’s Notre Dame. Most championships, heismans, hall of famers (not to mention the College Football Hall of Fame is IN south bend), most fans, best (Michigan comes in second) fight song, most lore, etc. Although Michigan is no slouch itself.</p>