Should I identify as Asian and/or White on my applications?

[Findmoreinfo]

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'At the selective schools, the admission stats reveal that the bar is set considerably higher for Asian applicants. '</p>

<p>Again another myth. There is no evidence directly from the university of any such thing.
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<p>The most direct way would be to have Department of Education ask all colleges to report SAT/ACT scores by race in their common data sets. This way no one CAN say there is no evidence. All Asians should support this cause.</p>

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The most direct way would be to have Department of Education ask all colleges to report SAT/ACT scores by race in their common data sets. This way no one CAN say there is no evidence. All Asians should support this cause.

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<p>That would be a good start. It would sure how fine a line separates everyone at the top schools. Also the schools would need to extrapolate international Asian stats from domestic Asian stats. I suspect the International guys are skewing the Asians stats upward.</p>

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<p>^ You don’t have to worry about international Asian stats higher than domestic Asian (second generation Asian American) stats. I said this before and you can see why.</p>

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<p>Though many international Asians are strong stats wise, a big portion of them are those who cannot get into their domestic universities through college entrance exams and want to try American colleges.</p>

[sosomenza]

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Though many international Asians are strong stats wise, a big portion of them are those who cannot get into their domestic universities through college entrance exams and wants to try American colleges.

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<p>I believe that International Asians find it more prestigious to get into the top ranked US schools than domestic schools.</p>

<p>Also I don’t mind the chip on the shoulder, having to work harder than everyone else mentality as long as it doesn’t morph into resentment or worse against others. The resentment is what I’m rallying against not the motivation to do better. GL to all Asians.</p>

[newyorkcitylivin]

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2. Would he really want to pursue a school that considered him differently if he marked “white” only vs “white” and “Asian”? 3) It always makes sense to be honest - just one of the facts of life.</p>

<p>Without hesitation, he identified as both.

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<p>On college apps, are you allowed to identify as both White and Asian? I know there’s a Two or More Races category, is that what you’re referring to? There is usually a very small percentage of people who select that (from what I’ve seen on common data sets), but is that the “better” option to choose if you’re mixed (both White and Asian)? Isn’t that pretty much like not self-identifying though because you wouldn’t necessarily be telling them exactly what races you are, you’ll just be put into the Two or More Races category. </p>

<p>Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’m only an upcoming senior and still very new to college apps.</p>

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<p>“That would be a good start. It would sure how fine a line separates everyone at the top schools.”</p>

<p>450 points on SAT score between Asians and Blacks is not a fine line!!!</p>

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<p>“Princeton sociologist Thomas J. Espenshade and his colleagues have demonstrated that among undergraduates at highly selective schools such as the Ivy League, white students have mean scores 310 points higher on the 1600 SAT scale than their black classmates, but Asian students average 140 points above whites.”</p>

[newyorkcitylivin]

<p>Read an interesting article… [College</a> applications force mixed-race teens to color outside the lines | The Mash](<a href=“http://themash.com/blog/news/2012/11/15/college-applications-mixed-race-ethnicity/]College”>http://themash.com/blog/news/2012/11/15/college-applications-mixed-race-ethnicity/)</p>

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Rubenstone does believe that being multiracial has its advantages— “Colleges like (the diversity brought by mixed race and ethnicity students) because they can get a Puerto Rican kid and a Greek kid in one student,” she says. “It makes the student (body) a bit more interesting.”

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[sosomenza]

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450 points on SAT score between Asians and Blacks is not a fine line!!!

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<p>THIS IS FALSE AND UNSUPPORTABLE. The best that can be said is that you are relying on studies with outdated statistics that likely does not extrapolate stats of athletes. </p>

<p>By the way according to SAT-2012 data- 2% of blacks or 4500 students (enough to fill the entire Ivy of black acceptances, twice over, have an SAT of at least 2100 (OR Higher). Since the population is twice over it is likely that the IVY league takes the cream of kids who are scoring in the 2200+ range. If the cream is not applying to the IVY leagues and it might be possible, then Asians should consider it a free ride compliments of Blacks and thank them for the seats that they are giving up. See post #20.</p>

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<p>MODERATOR NOTE: This thread has turned into a general AA discussion, please continue it on the Race FAQ sticky thread.</p>