<p>i am a student who just moved here from pakistan and i have done very well in my high school (3.92 gpa) and will have three APs next year.. but i just cant do well on my SATs i will get around a 1300-1340 (old SAT cant predict writing) on my test. i am going to the columbia summer school this year and my family has really worked hard to afford this for me, u like most people in my high school i cant afford a lot of tuition. my sat2 will be great i predict. this summer i begged and pleaded for an internship at the pakistan division at the un, and i am the president and founder of an organisation to benefit schools in pakistan (not in my school or community with kids from a lot of other places), other ecs are danced for 4 yrs, co-editor of human rights newsletter and next year will be co-founder and editor for a newsletter for gay rights, HIV education etc..., a lot of volunteering in school to help the underprivelaged kids in my school i know my ecs are not the typical harvard applicants one but just things i am very very commited to, and i am lucky enough to be a girl in my society and get education and i want to go to harvard because they have a great program in south asian studies. please tell me if i should apply early?</p>
<p>why not? anything is possible.</p>
<p>Yes. Give up all hope....</p>
<p>???w?t?f???</p>
<p>my question was if i should apply to some other university early.. one that i have a chance to get into to.. sorry i phrased it wrongly</p>
<p>Follow your dream. Those who try to "game" the system often end up outsmarting themselves.</p>
<p>Yeah ...i mean... my plan all along was to apply to some safer school early... but now I've realised that since Harvard's my dream, I should just go for it...</p>
<p>If you're anything like me and you choose the safe route, you'll just regret it later in life thinking "What if...?"</p>
<p>But y do u HAVE TO apply early to some school? Why don't you just apply RD for all? You might have a better chance that way, plus you wont be regretting choosing to apply EA if you get rejected. That's what I'm going to do. I've also had trouble with my SAT Is, also expect to do well in SAT IIs. I dunno its up 2 u to decide in the end</p>
<p>If you plan to apply to Harvard at all - or ANY elite - then APPLY EARLY!!!</p>
<p>The EA admit rate is at LEAST four times higher than the RD admit rate. I assume if you are applying, you'd like to maximize your chances of admission!</p>
<p>I can see not applying to an ED school in order not to limit your options, but there is ZERO reason not to apply EA, or SCEA, some place .... ANY PLACE!!!</p>
<p>Any guidance counsellor who doesn't tell EVERY student interested in elite colleges to apply EA - at least - should be sued for educational malpractice!</p>
<p>r u sure Byerly? wouldnt the competitition be harder if you apply EA? I mean all of the other applicants are like what? the 1st ranks of their schools and their parents donate thousands of dollars to the school...people who KNOW for sure they are going to get in....right???</p>
<p>yes that is what i have been told.. to apply early because it increases my chances of getting because i would be competing with around 4000 applicants and not 22,000</p>
<p>Yes, although that is true (about the number of people you are going against), always keep in mind that these kids are an "extra" selective group (like that's possible). BUT, I do encourage you to about EA to Harvard. Honestly, I think you're a great candidate. Although the standardized tests are a bit on the side, you're story is amazing and it'll separate you from the majority of kids applying. Good luck to you! And don't give up hope.</p>
<p>"r u sure Byerly? wouldnt the competitition be harder if you apply EA? I mean all of the other applicants are like what? the 1st ranks of their schools and their parents donate thousands of dollars to the school...people who KNOW for sure they are going to get in....right???"</p>
<p>It can't hurt to apply early. Yes, you are faced with tougher competition in the EA round, but you also get another shot in the RD round if you get deferred. Also, as you can see, the tougher competition is more than compensated with the higher admit rate and a second shot during RD.</p>
<p>A book called "The Early Admissions Game", published last year, established conclusively that at almost every elite - including the Ivies - those who apply early are admitted at the same rate as RD applicants with SAT medians 100 to 150 points higher.</p>
<p>sorry, byerly, Im not sure i understood ur last post. would you say then that we should or should not apply EA if those who apply early are admitted at the same rate as those who apply RD? im really confused. It would definitely suit me more to apply EA, but Im terrified of the competition. My SATs are quite low (1400) so I don't know if I'd stand a chance against all those people applying EA with amazing stats. EEK.</p>
<p>At each and every SAT median score level, the odds of admission are higher if you apply EA. End of story.</p>
<p>so you're convinced I should apply EA.</p>
<p>If Harvard is your top choice, sure.</p>
<p>What's the worst that could happen? You'd be deferred (virtually nobody is rejected EA) and you'd be in the RD pool where - statistics show - your odds of admission are virtually the same as the RD applicants, and you can also apply RD to other schools.</p>
<p>yes, harvard is my top choice. ur right. but knowing my luck, id be one of those rejected EA. lol. guess ill just have to think about it some more. thanks though</p>
<p>"At each and every SAT median score level, the odds of admission are higher if you apply EA. End of story."</p>
<p>But keep in mind, everyone, that there's no of knowing the other attributes of these acceptees. They could very well be more competitive than the RD pool in ways that can't be measured by numbers. In fact, I think the higher acceptance rate shows that they ARE more competitive. I'm not so sure a statistic about the SATs will tell us everything we need to know about this matter. "End of story."</p>
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<p>"but knowing my luck, id be one of those rejected EA." </p>
<p>Crimson, have some hope, will ya? I'm not sure if you're simply self-deprecating or being over-modest; either way, have some confidence. From my understanding it's harder to get rejected from Harvard in the early round than it is to get in. No worries. :-)</p>
<p>Mostly self-deprecating, but also not getting my hopes up i guess. :) Don't worry, I'll give it my best... I just dont know what to think.</p>