<p>Assuming those two are your reaches, if you got into every school on your list would you go to one of those two? If so, I would apply- you aren’t completely out of the range, and you don’t want to keep asking yourself what would have happened if you applied. On the other hand, if you see schools that are easier to get into for you and that you would also choose over NU and Vanderbilt, then don’t bother (waste of time and money)</p>