Should I take AP Calculus AB as a Freshman?

EE and philosophy :clown_face:

tysm

ok.

The exact way the OP is claiming to be doing, perform just well enough, with short term memory and pattern recognition, to get a grade, but really have no foundational command of the subject. I did that for chemistry, which I never used again, and am sad to this day that I did it that way even though I don’t use it.

It would be just fine to take that approach if the OP wants to be a physician. We don’t use higher maths. If they want to be an engineer, physicist, computer scientist, financial quant, economist, etc. it will be a disaster.

EEs use a TON of math. In addition to a full Calculus sequence, you’ll take any if not all of these: MVC, Linear, DifEq/PDE, and discrete, if not more. ALL of the other classes will require command of the knowledge of these course at one time or another. You won’t use all of it always, but you’ll always need to be able to access it out of your mental vault.

With your current approach, you might get into a prestigious engineering program with a shiny medal, but you probably won’t get out. If you do, you won’t perform. Engineering is ultimately egalitarian. Those who can, advance. Those who can’t, don’t, regardless of where their degree is from.

Take your current approach and heavily risk failure in your plan.

Good luck.

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OP is 13 or 14. If they are contemplating taking Calculus at this point they are very very good at math, regardless of what they are writing. Having the insight to realize that they maybe should wait and not be a part of the insane acceleration that may be in place in their school is a good thing. OP I commend you for thinking this through and waiting until you are ready for a very difficult course and when you can handle the material so it will help you succeed in your career goals and not padding your high school transcript. Good luck!

I want to be able to stand upto my parents expectations.
And make them proud no matter what :slight_smile:

Thank you so much.

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EE = lots of math needed
Philosophy = logical thinking needed

But you do not need to take calculus in 9th grade for either.

What will make them prouder, a metal and dropping out of uni because you can’t handle the math or having a successful career? There’s NO reason to skip pre-calc to met some contrived bragging schedule. I think I’ve said all I need to say, so will drop following this thread. Good luck.

That’s nice, but don’t mix reality with fantasy. If you struggle with Calc, the chance of GOING to IMO, let alone getting a medal there, is very very very slim.

I don’t know any IMO medalists, but I doubt it that any of them had IMO medal as a goal. They were just extremely good at math.

The material covered in AMC, AIME, and (J)AMO, all paths to IMO, do not cover Calculus, so wanting to get through Calculus for this reason makes no sense.

My D is a multi-time AIME and MPfG qualifier, and I’m active with our regional HS math team, (sponsored by the US IMO team head coach). Based on many sources of advice, she chose to not accelerate further in Math (Calc in 10th grade) and instead focused on the Number Theory and Counting/Probability subjects that are part of competitive math and outside the standard high school curriculum.

Most of the courses were through AoPS, founded by perfect AIME/USAMO winner Richard Rusczyk and taught by many AMO participants. Though it doesn’t sound like exactly the situation here, I suggest your read his “Don’t Fall Into The Calculus Trap” warning about trying to race through the math curriculum.

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As other people have already recommended, I would not take any of these classes as a freshman.

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