<p>Hey, I got in ED, and I wanted to decide ahead of time which AP exams to take at the end of the year. So far, it seems like AP Calc BC and AP Stats are my only options for course credits. I wanted to ask current Penn (especially Wharton) students if I should try to get 5's on either exam and eliminate those math requirements from the wharton curriculum? Or should I really take them at Penn? Do you really need to take Calc and Stat while in college to be successful in the business classes? How relevent are they and is it crucial to have them fresh in my mind when taking, for example, a finance course? Thanks, I appreciate all comments.</p>
<p>take the aps. having the credits can only help you, as they give you flexibility. also, dont worry about the finance courses when you're still a pre-frosh :P</p>
<p>Definitely take them now.</p>
<p>thanks. anyone agree or disagree?</p>
<p>I can't see anyone willingly taking Math 104 if there is a way to get out of it (except for the people who drop down from 114).</p>
<p>Try to get 5s! Trust me, itll make your life a lot easier once you get here.</p>
<p>I think the real question is are you even in these classes right now? If you plan to self study, get started right now. Even if you take the test and get 5s, you can still take it again at Penn.</p>
<p>I am taking both classes, though.</p>
<p>"Do you really need to take Calc and Stat while in college to be successful in the business classes? How relevent are they and is it crucial to have them fresh in my mind when taking, for example, a finance course?"</p>
<p>You're approaching this the wrong way.</p>
<p>Are you worried you need "college-level rigour" when applying calculus concepts in your class?</p>
<p>The solution then is not to stop learning math while you're in college. You need to learn them NOW, then CONTINUE learning them when you get there. What do you mean, "fresh in your mind"? Beyond Calc BC, as I recall, there's vector calculus, multivariable calculus, calculus with non-Euclidean geometry, calculus with Riemannian manifolds: completing all the AP math courses does not at all eliminate your math requirements. They would only have just begun.</p>
<p>(And yes, they're all very vital to business and financial studies.)</p>
<p>I wasn't sure how deeply wharton students went into the math curriculum. All I know is that there is a basic calculus and statistics requirement. I am trying to understand if I NEED any more math courses beyong the intros to fully understand the coursework/concepts in business/finance courses. How many wharton students actually take all those advanced calculus courses you just listed, galoisien? My thought (probably wrong) was that all you needed was the basic intro math courses. I was worried that I would have to have every minor detail of calculus ingrained in my memory to understand what would come out of the wharton professor's mouth, therefore I hesistated to try to waive my intro math requirement with a 5 on ap exam. I thought the course would be easier the second time around, and I could learn/remember more for the later business/finance courses. I hope I make some sense. I'm more confused than ever about the math requirements for Wharton!</p>
<p>You can also take them over the summer at your local CC, if you dont do well enough on your AP exams</p>
<p>You cannot take any business classes for Wharton (Stat is a business class) at any other college except Penn if you want credit.</p>
<p>For Wharton you need to have Calc II (BC credit or 104) and a year of intro stat to graduate (unless you wish to concentrate in Statistics). Most of the people I know in Wharton do fine without taking any more math than what is required. If you have the opportunity to get out of it go ahead and do it. Math 104 is not an easy class and many Wharton students who come in with BC credit don't take more math (unless they want a math minor or dual/joint degree)</p>
<p>thanks venkat! but can't I use the stat credit from ap to waive one of my liberal arts requirements?</p>
<p>If you get a 5 on the AP Stat exam, you'll be able to take STAT102 once you've received credit for MATH104. If you receive a passing grade in STAT102, you'll receive credit for STAT101.</p>
<p>And yes, try to get all of this out of the way before you get to Penn.</p>
<p>If you want to look over the specifics regarding the Wharton curriculum, I'd definitely suggest reading through the Undergraduate Handbook. You can find that here: The</a> Wharton School - Undergraduate Division</p>
<p>take the aps, then take math 114. as a current wharton student, i will tell you that while it's never strictly required that you know the material in math 114, in discussing a lot of the theories and concepts, or deriving equations in class, they will throw around partial derivatives, multiple integrals, etc. under the assumption that you can follow them.</p>
<p>you probably won't ever have to take partial derivatives on an exam, but having the extra conceptual background will definitely give you a leg up - something you'll want to consider especially in the context of wharton's curve... i can specifically think of times when i've thought 'ah hah! this is nothing more than an application of ____' in corporate finance, financial derivatives, opim, stat 101, 102, insr 205, etc etc.</p>
<p>if you're fine with bc calc, you'll be fine with math 114. you won't be wasting a course either, since it counts for your wharton science requirement (i'm pretty sure)</p>