Whether you are a Tufts student or not, you are 100% right!
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After looking at both schoolsâ common data sets for 2020 entering classes, Tufts has the clear edge over Lehigh.
Both have a similar amount of Pell grant students (13% at Tufts vs. 14% at Lehigh).
Tufts had 23K apps, accepted 16% and yielded 43% with 222 admitted off the waitlist which helps yield.
Lehigh had 12K apps, accepted 50% and yielded 22% with 1684 admitted off the waitlist.
Tufts middle 50% scores: 1400-1510 and 32-35
Lehighâs middle 50% scores: 1280-1420 and 29-33
Tufts: 84% were in top 10% vs. 66% at Lehigh.
Then in 2021, Tufts had a 35% increase in apps and 11% acceptance rate. Lehigh had a 14% increase in apps and a 45% acceptance rate.
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Tufts is certainly more selective than Lehigh. But selectivity is not, IMO, the main driver of a schoolâs academic quality; quality of faculty/teaching is. Smaller class sizes, access to profs, a plethora of academic offerings, etc., also help of course.
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Faculty resources, those with terminal degrees and class sizes are all part of the US News rankings. So are actual graduation rates vs. expected grad rates.
I said âwould beâ. Not areâŠbecause yes, there may not be overlap - I donât know.
Again, I wrote:
I assure you many at Lehigh would be admitted to Tufts but chose Lehigh.
There is no question that students who go to Lehigh could get into Tufts. Thatâs what I stated - and I believe it to be true.
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This thread is so pointless at this point lol everyone is arguing in circles
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Thatâs silly. It has a lot to do with it. why are top schools all below 20% acceptance rateâŠmostly in low teens?
Sometimes I watch hockey just for the fights.
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Generally, when the point of a thread is to dispute/discuss the merit of a US News ranking, it devolves into a pointless circle of word salad.
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Lehigh would be a safety to Tufts
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Honestly though! Like arguing over this is not going to do anything
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Just because Tufts deserves to be higher ranked than Lahigh doesnât mean it deserves to be higher ranked than it currently is at #30.
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LOL hopefully this is the last Iâm going to comment on this thread because it really is going in circles. I disagree with Tufts competing with Emory and WashU. I understand that Tufts is becoming very selective, but weâve discussed repeatedly about its smaller endowment, lack of multiple fields of speciality and relatively low peer assessment score.
Final thing I will say Tufts like WashU is a rich kid school, its median income is like 225k, and it still doesnât do too well with racial diversity (last I checked itâs still 60% white but I may be wrong). I think socioeconomic diversity and social mobility should play a stronger role in these sorts of discussions, but hey, just my opinion.
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You wonât be able to help yourself.
Even Emory and Wash U admit that the three schools compete with each other. Tufts is truly no more selective than it was 20 and 40 years ago⊠always been about the same. Donât be fooled by US News rankings which shows Tufts as lower. The student profiles are somewhat similar (check common data set) among the three schools and, yes, there are lots of wealthy full-payers at each of the three. Be aware, that is another reason they compete.
The common data sets show who attends the school, not who they are admitting. Of course students with lower stats are going to attend more than students with higher stats. Selectivity, again, has nothing to do with prestige. Tufts is also known for yield protection. If youâre gonna group selectivity, why donât you include Tulane close to them?
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WashU median family income - $272,000 (Economic diversity and student outcomes at WashU - The New York Times)
Tufts median family income - $224,800 (Gray Areas Matter: Socioeconomic diversity at Tufts - The Tufts Daily)
Emory median family income - $139,800 (Economic diversity and student outcomes at Emory - The New York Times)
These schools all fall in the middle-upper class, but Emory is literally half of WashU and 80k~ish lower than Tufts. Iâm glad to send you the diversity stats too!
My point is not about student quality (all three have smart students) but rather the quality of education being provided. But also as I said, I think diversity and mobility should be a key part of rep as well.
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I am not sure I understand your point about CDS. Whether common data set shows who attends or not, it is super important IMO. Also, as a back-up - please check Naviance. The facts will be similar. Note that Tufts is a hair lower, and I mean a hair.
BTW - Each of my siblings are proud Emory grads and I prefer Emory, by far, among the three.
Tulane is not in the same league - lol. If you are being serious, I will let you do your own research on that one. I almost brought it up as a Lehigh level school earlier-on.
No argument that it is important to some people.
Social Mobility is 5% in the rankings being discussed. Supposedly, the way it is measured, however, is suspect.