<p>I have always been amazed at Michigan's high out of state tuition rate. But because it is such a good and desirable school for students, they can easily charge this and still attract top kids. My question is: should they go private? I mean, if they did that, they wouldn't be restricted by quotas for taking so many Michigan kids which would increase stats. And if they took Michigan kids, they could take them at higher tuition rates. With this move, it would seem that they would get more money and would help the bottom line.</p>
<p>Now, I have to admit, I know little about the dynamics/culture of Michigan. But from my perspective, this seems like a move they could make. Will they ever go private?</p>
<p>Yes they should. (We will both be called hater in 5…4…3…2… ,probably by novi)
Will they ever? No. The regents take care of the state’s interest before the university’s interest.</p>
<p>Yes they should go private. I don’t see how the vast difference between the in-state and out-of-state tuition rate is feasible given how little (percentage-wise) the taxpayers of the state of Michigan provide the university. As well, they should stop trying to screw over OOS students with horrible financial aid.</p>
<p>Yes they should go private. I don’t see how the vast difference between the in-state and out-of-state tuition rate is feasible given how little (percentage-wise) the taxpayers of the state of Michigan provide the university. As well, they should stop trying to screw over OOS students with horrible financial aid. </p>
<p>Motion12345 you can always get instate tuition at PSU-UP or Pitt.</p>
<p>It always amazes me that the same people who ***** about the OOS costs to attend Michigan are the same ones who seem to ***** about the state in general. Most of the OOS students have no intention of staying instate after graduation, so why should they get a break from the taxpayers of Michigan?</p>
<p>^ I disagree with the OOS students get screwed argument. That is your own damn problem. If you cant afford it go to your own state university.</p>
<p>However, my argument is from the university’s perspective. The university needs to do what’s good for itself, not what’s good for the state of michigan, considering that the state of michigan isn’t paying its fair share of the bill.
I firmly believes that going private allows the university to charge everyone private tuition, which would provide more revenue to the university than the current model of State funding + instate tuition + OOS tuition.
The benefit is not simply on the financial side. Being private means the university wont have to admit duds from instate over talented OOS applicants to fill a quota, and the university could provide better financial aid to everyone due to the increase in tuition revenue.</p>
<p>I never said anything against the state of Michigan…</p>
<p>I don’t want to go to to PSU-UP or Pitt over Michigan. And I don’t have to worry about tuition at Pitt, anyways. </p>
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<p>Really? So, basically, unless you’re in-state, then the university shouldn’t help you be able to afford to come? Good to see that you believe that the University of Michigan should be exclusively for rich, OOS kids and that anyone in a less-than-stellar financial situation from OOS shouldn’t be able to attend. Would you like to explain your reasoning for supporting that position?</p>
<p>“Really? So, basically, unless you’re in-state, then the university shouldn’t help you be able to afford to come? Good to see that you believe that the University of Michigan should be exclusively for rich, OOS kids and that anyone in a less-than-stellar financial situation from OOS shouldn’t be able to attend. Would you like to explain your reasoning for supporting that position?”</p>
<p>That is the problem with society these days. Why do you think you are entitled to anything? You have a state university in your state and for some reason, you think a state university from another state has to subsidize your education? The university has no obligation to make itself affordable to anyone other than Michigan residents. In addition, if you are good enough from OOS and Michigan thinks you’re worth it, you’ll get merit-based scholarship anyway. If they dont care enough to offer you one, you are dispensable from their point of view anyway. Business is business, welcome to the real world.</p>
<p>You need to be rich or be making significantly more than the average salary of a Michigan grad (~55k?) if you don’t want to be in debt for many years.</p>
<p>“That is the problem with society these days. Why do you think you are entitled to anything? You have a state university in your state and for some reason, you think a state university from another state has to subsidize your education? The university has no obligation to make itself affordable to anyone other than Michigan residents. In addition, if you are good enough from OOS and Michigan thinks you’re worth it, you’ll get merit-based scholarship anyway. If they dont care enough to offer you one, you are dispensable from their point of view anyway. Business is business, welcome to the real world.” </p>
<p>I agree with bearcats. I think that Michigan should allow very few OOS students in to the university. I mean, it it a public STATE university, so it’s there to educate the people of Michigan, not east coast Ivy League rejects. Go to your own damn state university, we don’t want you here in the first place.</p>
<p>What about the kids who want to get out of their state, like people from California, Nebraska, etc. I lived in Michigan 16 years of my life through the beginning of junior year in high school and I’ve wanted to attend Michigan and be part of the Go Blue pride since early. Why should I have to reside in a state that I cannot stand because I’m a California resident for now one year?</p>
<p>Michigan needs its out-of-staters to keep its student body as strong as it is. Either that our incentivize the in-staters who leave the state to stay. But the latter likely would not equalize kicking out all the out-of-staters</p>
<p>Bearcats’ point is that as long as Michigan is a public university, its mission is to take care of in-state students first, and only then, take care of OOS students. I am inclined to agree with him.</p>
<p>This said, I believe that the University of Michigan will inevitably become private sooner or later. As the chart provided by crazypianist clearly demonstrates, the state once funded almost 80% of Michigan operating costs. We now stand at 20%. At the rate things are going, the state will contribute less than 10% of the university’s non-medical, non-research operating budget by 2020. </p>
<p>As such, the transition from public to private is inevitable. UVa is also on a similar path.</p>